Anti-Islam filmmaker in hiding after protests

senojekips said:
And what qualifications does he have, other than being a rabid pro zionist mouthpiece.

Taking responsibility for your actions is a pretty good measurement of a persons maturity, the idiot who posted that deliberately provocative movie was ultimately responsible for the deaths of a number of persons and he should be called to account for it.

But then again, you being an Israeli, you'd be used to that?
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He is responsible for making that movie. The people who attacked other people because of that movie are responsible for their actions, including the killing of innocent people and destroying property.

Capt Frogman said:
What has he done? Do you really need me to answer that? Do you watch/read the news? :rolleyes:

Ah, a video by an atheist to provoke a reaction. What a hero eh?
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So you make Christopher Nolan responsible for the approx dozen people killed at the Aurora, Colorado, theater?

And John Lennon was responisble for his own death because his killer Chapman was incensed by Lennon's "bigger than Jesus" remark, calling it blasphemy?

If someone is offended by what you said does that give him a license to kill you, let alone innocent people?

If you don't like it then don't read or view it. They all had that choice!
 
VDKMS said:
So you make Christopher Nolan responsible for the approx dozen people killed at the Aurora, Colorado, theater?

And John Lennon was responisble for his own death because his killer Chapman was incensed by Lennon's "bigger than Jesus" remark, calling it blasphemy?

If someone is offended by what you said does that give him a license to kill you, let alone innocent people?

If you don't like it then don't read or view it. They all had that choice!
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The Colorado shootings were carried out by a nut job.

Lennon was shot by a nut job.

Your examples have no relevance to the discussion.
 
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VDKMS said:
If someone is offended by what you said does that give him a license to kill you, let alone innocent people?

If you don't like it then don't read or view it. They all had that choice!
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Actually yes it does, if you know beforehand that your actions are likely to provoke a violent response then yes you are partially responsible, we have a thing called negligent homicide that would almost cover this incident it is used in cases like hunting accidents where the shooter was not following safety procedures etc.

That being said it would be really nice if the middle east (and I mean the entire middle east yes that includes Israel) would reach a point where it understood that not every possible perceived slight should result in the deaths of non-related people.
 
What really needs to happen is that the same thing should happen in the west to embassies of the countries that are burning them and killing the occupants. They will do it to the Embassies in their countries as they know that they can get away with.
We sit by and tut and do nothing along with our Governments, and I think we should get a bit more hot under the collar when they take to streets killing any one of a different faith or burning embassies
 
senojekips said:
I presume that you can provide a link to an accurate psychiatric evaluation of all the perpetrators?

The first two, were assessed as psychotic by qualified persons.
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Oh, were splitting hairs between reactions of psychiatric nuts & religious nuts are we?
 
George said:
Oh, were splitting hairs between reactions of psychiatric nuts & religious nuts are we?
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The type of psychosis was not my point, and I think that was quite obvious. What I was getting at was that the first two persons you mentioned were actually judged by competent persons to me mentally unstable, this is not the case with the rioters as they have not been and most probably would not be diagnosed as mentally unstable by any competent authority.

Stupid, hot headed, acting with criminal intent,... Almost certainly,
Mentally unstable or psychotic ,... definitely not.
 
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Yes it was me!:)

Seno, anyone who attacks innocent people or buildings that have nothing to do with what happend are mentally unstable.

All of those attackers must pray 5 times a day and only listen to their imam. They act like zombies controlled by their leader. They propably were brainwashed since childhood. Yes they are mentally unstable.

They are not only upset by cartoons or films about Mohammed. They are also upset when their friend (a minor criminal) gets chased by the police and hid in a electricity cabin and didn't survive. Hundreds of cars were destroyed after that incident.

Ever talked to people who were chased away from their neighborhood by such people ? Ever talked to the police who patrol in their neighborhoods or had to intervene?

I don't think so.
 
George said:
VDKMS actually
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I was answering your reply as shown below, to any person with a moderate understanding of the English language the word "they" refers to the persons in question.
George said:
And they're not?
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VDKMS said:
Yes it was me!:)
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No it wasn't I was answering George

VDKMS said:
Seno, anyone who attacks innocent people or buildings that have nothing to do with what happend are mentally unstable.
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Similarly it could be argued that anyone who supports a thieving, lying murderous Nazi based regime that believes that some religious claptrap gives them the right to murder the occupants and owners of a land, and with the worlds record for UN Resolutions regarding War Crimes and Human Rights abuses is also mentally unstable.

VDKMS said:
All of those attackers must pray 5 times a day and only listen to their imam. They act like zombies controlled by their leader. They propably were brainwashed since childhood. Yes they are mentally unstable.

They are not only upset by cartoons or films about Mohammed. They are also upset when their friend (a minor criminal) gets chased by the police and hid in a electricity cabin and didn't survive. Hundreds of cars were destroyed after that incident.

Ever talked to people who were chased away from their neighborhood by such people ? Ever talked to the police who patrol in their neighborhoods or had to intervene?

I don't think so.
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No,... I haven't, but I do know of over 700,000 people that were driven off their land by an infesting horde of European Jews who have this weird idea that because some religious fool once wrote that their god promised them a homeland, this gives them an excuse to harass beat and murder the native owners of that land numbering over 1 million people, and you have the hide to accuse others of being nut cases?

As for weird practices, you need to take a look at the Jews who have their own share of the weird and wacky

The only reason there was little physical damage was that the people had little for the Israelis to destroy. Over 300 villages were subsequently wiped off the map and the land grabs go on to this day, so I guess the Arabs are not so bad after all. The Israelis are at least their equal and those who support them as bad if not worse.
 
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senojekips said:
No,... I haven't, but I do know of over 700,000 people that were driven off their land by an infesting horde of European Jews who have this weird idea that because some religious fool once wrote that their god promised them a homeland, this gives them an excuse to harass beat and murder the native owners of that land numbering over 1 million people.

The only reason there was little physical damage was that the people had little for them to destroy. Over 300 villages were effectively wiped off the map and the land grabs go on to this day, so I guess the Arabs are not so bad after all.
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I can't believe it's 2012 and we still haven't made any significant changes in our behavior.
 
Yossarian said:
I can't believe it's 2012 and we still haven't made any significant changes in our behavior.
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Yes, it goes on to this day.

Although the Israelis are now becoming more cautious, as they are very much aware of the power of the internet, which first bought their criminality to the notice of much of the outside world.
 
senojekips said:
No,... I haven't, but I do know of over 700,000 people that were driven off their land by an infesting horde of European Jews who have this weird idea that because some religious fool once wrote that their god promised them a homeland, this gives them an excuse to harass beat and murder the native owners of that land numbering over 1 million people,

The only reason there was little physical damage was that the people had little for the Israelis to destroy. Over 300 villages were subsequently wiped off the map and the land grabs go on to this day, so I guess the Arabs are not so bad after all. The Israelis are at least their equal and those who support them as bad if not worse.
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Who were the original native owners? Wasn't Muslims. Jews were, then Pagan Romans who eventually became Christians. Your so called "Native owners" took it by conquest, force, violence, what ever term you prefer. Same applies to "Evil Crusaders" trying to take Muslim Holy Lands.
 
George said:
Who were the original native owners? Wasn't Muslims. Jews were, then Pagan Romans who eventually became Christians. Your so called "Native owners" took it by conquest, force, violence, what ever term you prefer. Same applies to "Evil Crusaders" trying to take Muslim Holy Lands.
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You haven't read very much have you? Islam (Muslims) is a religion, not a race or "people".

The area was inhabited at least 10,000BCE by the Canaanites. The Jews by their own admission never arrived from Egypt until c. 1800BCE, 8,000 years later.
 
George said:
Who were the original native owners? Wasn't Muslims. Jews were, then Pagan Romans who eventually became Christians. Your so called "Native owners" took it by conquest, force, violence, what ever term you prefer. Same applies to "Evil Crusaders" trying to take Muslim Holy Lands.
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But tell me what nationality were the original Jews?

My bet is that Judaism was a religious subset of the Canaanites (much like nations of today are made up of multiple religions) and I am prepared to bet that the Palestinians are another subset of the same Canaanite empire who became Muslim.

Now I am also relatively certain that the majority Jews in Israel today are predominantly a subset of Europe and I am sure you would agree that a New Zealand Catholic does not necessarily have the same DNA as an Italian, French or American Catholic because religions are not races.

Now that is out of the way how about that topic then or is this one going to also go down the Palestinian v Israeli sink hole as well?
 
senojekips said:
I was answering your reply as shown below, to any person with a moderate understanding of the English language the word "they" refers to the persons in question.
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No it wasn't I was answering George

Similarly it could be argued that anyone who supports a thieving, lying murderous Nazi based regime that believes that some religious claptrap gives them the right to murder the occupants and owners of a land, and with the worlds record for UN Resolutions regarding War Crimes and Human Rights abuses is also mentally unstable.

No,... I haven't, but I do know of over 700,000 people that were driven off their land by an infesting horde of European Jews who have this weird idea that because some religious fool once wrote that their god promised them a homeland, this gives them an excuse to harass beat and murder the native owners of that land numbering over 1 million people, and you have the hide to accuse others of being nut cases?

As for weird practices, you need to take a look at the Jews who have their own share of the weird and wacky

The only reason there was little physical damage was that the people had little for the Israelis to destroy. Over 300 villages were subsequently wiped off the map and the land grabs go on to this day, so I guess the Arabs are not so bad after all. The Israelis are at least their equal and those who support them as bad if not worse.
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You are like them. No matter the subject, you always try to spit your frustration (because that's what it is) of a certain country in the ME with the same BS.
The facts we have now about that film (this tread) gives NO connection whatsoever with that country.

senojekips said:
You haven't read very much have you? Islam (Muslims) is a religion, not a race or "people".

The area was inhabited at least 10,000BCE by the Canaanites. The Jews by their own admission never arrived from Egypt until c. 1800BCE, 8,000 years later.
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Use logic. The two fighting factions want Jerusalem, right? One faction's most holy place was build on top of the other's. I think that clearly shows who was there first and they still live there. They've lost their land and came back to retake it.

Can we no get on with the subject?
 
VDKMS said:
You are like them. No matter the subject, you always try to spit your frustration (because that's what it is) of a certain country in the ME with the same BS.
The facts we have now about that film (this tread) gives NO connection whatsoever with that country.
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Any sane person would be frustrated trying to debate a dribbling idiot like you. A good example of why this is so is shown below.

VDKMS said:
Use logic. The two fighting factions want Jerusalem, right? One faction's most holy place was build on top of the other's. I think that clearly shows who was there first and they still live there. They've lost their land and came back to retake it.
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If that is an example of your "logic", you are without a doubt either in complete denial or a certifiable idiot.

When buildings were erected has absolutely no bearing on the length of time a people have occupied an area. The only thing that it does demonstrate, is that the Jews were allegedly the first to build on that site, so what. There is nothing to say that the Canaanites ever built a temple or mud hut or whatever, anywhere prior to the arrival of the Jews. If you dug under any of the churches in my town I could guarantee that there would not be any ruins of any Aboriginal temples there. By your reasoning that would demonstrate that we Whites were the original occupants of the land we know as Australia.

Admit it,... you are without a doubt a certifiable idiot,... or a Troll, more likely both.
 
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