Israel , America or palestine is terriost ?

ScarabVenom said:
I'm saying that even if there was a legal obligation on Israel like a UN resolution, they wouldn't care anyways. That's my point.
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There is an International legal obligation, they don't give a fig for anyone or anything, that's what makes them a rogue state. When Saddam started acting like that, the US made up some **** and bull story about WMD and invaded, then hunted him down and hung him.

I think that it's time a few in Israel got a dose of the same medicine.
 
Eden said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack
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WTF has either of these things got to do with Israel's attempted Ethnic cleansing that we were discussing? What Iraq does in their own country is none of your business, or is it alright for lets say, the Russkies to hit Israel's nuclear facilities or bomb Tel Aviv in retaliation for Israeli crimes against humanity.

Operation Opera was in 1981 and Halabja was in 1988 and long over before the US invaded Iraq. These were not the reasons that the US Invaded Iraq and you know it as well as I do.
 
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senojekips said:
WTF has either of these things got to do with Israel's attempted Ethnic cleansing that we were discussing? What Iraq does in their own country is none of your business, or is it alright for lets say, the Russkies to hit Israel's nuclear facilities or bomb Tel Aviv in retaliation for Israeli crimes against humanity.

Operation Opera was in 1981 and Halabja was in 1988 and long over before the US invaded Iraq. These were not the reasons that the US Invaded Iraq and you know it as well as I do.
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I was refering to what you said about WMD's in Iraq,If you don't know CW's are considered WMDs.And it was one of the main reasons,(this and the invasion of Kuwait.)
I'm not gonna discuss with you about Israel since clearly you are driven by hate,
But i'm just gonna say that if we really are doing ethnic cleansing,then we suck at this badly.What is intersting,is that Jordan killed more palestniains in one month(black semptember)then Israel ever did.

Edit:Oh and what Iraq does is none of my bussines?,ohhh the hypocrisy and double standards..
 
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Eden said:
I was refering to what you said about WMD's in Iraq,If you don't know CW's are considered WMDs.And it was one of the main reasons,(this and the invasion of Kuwait.)
I'm not gonna discuss with you about Israel since clearly you are driven by hate,
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So you feel that my hatred of your crimes is a reason for you to avoid facing the truth? I suppose you would also have said that about my hatred of Nazi crimes? One rule for Nazis and another one for the Zionazis, eh?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with hatred of a rogue state that is responsible for virtually all the Islamic Global terrorism we see today.

Eden said:
But i'm just gonna say that if we really are doing ethnic cleansing,then we suck at this badly.What is intersting,is that Jordan killed more palestniains in one month(black semptember)then Israel ever did.
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LIAR. Israel has killed 90,785 killed by their own admission, http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/casualtiestotal.html
No doubt this figure is seriously understated.

It is estimated that there are 5 million Palestinian refugees today as a result of the Israelis. I'd say that for a pissant state smaller than some farms, you are punching well above your weight in the Ethnic cleansing race. The UN and virtually every other humanitarian aid agency in the world agrees.

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senojekips said:
So you feel that my hatred of your crimes is a reason for you to avoid facing the truth? I suppose you would also have said that about my hatred of Nazi crimes? One rule for Nazis and another one for the Zionazis, eh?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with hatred of a rogue state that is responsible for virtually all the Islamic Global terrorism we see today.

LIAR. Israel has killed 90,785 killed by their own admission, http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/casualtiestotal.html
No doubt this figure is seriously understated.

It is estimated that there are 5 million Palestinian refugees today as a result of the Israelis. I'd say that for a pissant state smaller than some farms, you are punching well above your weight in the Ethnic cleansing race. The UN and virtually every other humanitarian aid agency in the world agrees.

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Don't you know to read?
It says "ARABS\fakestniains"...you know,we fought the arabs(and kicked their asses)so atleast 80% of the casualites are arabs.(fakestniais are also arabs,but ignorant people like you call em palestniains,actually the term palestniain during the british mandate in palestniain was a jew living in palestine.)

T_T,ignorance is all over the place here.

Yes i feel your hatred,which clearly comes from ignorance.And i also feel your hypocrisy
 
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senojekips said:
So you feel that my hatred of your crimes is a reason for you to avoid facing the truth? I suppose you would also have said that about my hatred of Nazi crimes? One rule for Nazis and another one for the Zionazis, eh?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with hatred of a rogue state that is responsible for virtually all the Islamic Global terrorism we see today.

LIAR. Israel has killed 90,785 killed by their own admission, http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/casualtiestotal.html
No doubt this figure is seriously understated.

It is estimated that there are 5 million Palestinian refugees today as a result of the Israelis. I'd say that for a pissant state smaller than some farms, you are punching well above your weight in the Ethnic cleansing race. The UN and virtually every other humanitarian aid agency in the world agrees.

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5 million palestinian refugees isnt because israel caused it, its because of themselves and their arab "allies" who treat them like crap and blaming everything on us. Eden, dont even bother arguing with him, it is useless... he is so blinded by hate its amazing...
its easy to blame everybody isnt it? you sound like a broken record...
 
Cartman said:
5 million palestinian refugees isnt because israel caused it, its because of themselves and their arab "allies" who treat them like crap and blaming everything on us. Eden, dont even bother arguing with him, it is useless... he is so blinded by hate its amazing...
its easy to blame everybody isnt it? you sound like a broken record...
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Yep,always easy to blame us.
But when the West bank was under Jordanin(1948-1967) control and the people there had no rights at all.Nobody gave a flying fck.
Same for gaza under Egyptian control.
Only when we freed these places,then the so called "palestniains" decided to show up,
even King abdullah said that they belong to Jordan

Just another useful idiot who think he knows it all..
pfft.
 
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Eden said:
I was refering to what you said about WMD's in Iraq,If you don't know CW's are considered WMDs.And it was one of the main reasons,(this and the invasion of Kuwait.)
I'm not gonna discuss with you about Israel since clearly you are driven by hate,
But i'm just gonna say that if we really are doing ethnic cleansing,then we suck at this badly.What is intersting,is that Jordan killed more palestniains in one month(black semptember)then Israel ever did.

Edit:Oh and what Iraq does is none of my bussines?,ohhh the hypocrisy and double standards..
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The first Gulf War was because Iraq invaded Kuwait...where was the coalition support for Iran when they invaded them...Oh...wait...the US sold BILLIONS in arms to the Iraqis to fight against the "Islamist" Iranians...Two short years after that war the very weapons we sold to the Iraqis were used first against the Kuwaitis and then against the coalition during Desert Storm.

The second Gulf War was prosecuted on extremely shoddy or even false intelligence. There was no connection between Iraq and the radical Muslems, and the WMD threat was grossly over estimated or even falsified to make Iraq out as much bigger threat than they actually were. To this day, the huge stockpiles we were expected to find in Iraq have not materialized...and trust me...we looked.

Radical Muslems didn't enter Iraq until AFTER we went there...not before.
 
easy up . The territory of Arab countries are so wildly,it ocuppy the north party of Africa and some areas of west Asia. I think the Arabs don't care of the little land who capture by Israelis。
 
udaka said:
easy up . The territory of Arab countries are so wildly,it ocuppy the north party of Africa and some areas of west Asia. I think the Arabs don't care of the little land who capture by Israelis。
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thats the problem ! they think just because the ottoman empire once ruled this land (they conquered it from the jews and forced them to convert or to be exiled) this land is theirs. VDKMS said it before, every land the muslims used to own is considered by them as muslim land...

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they believe this isnt enough... they even think spain is theirs... they will not stop untill they control the world, and they have said it before.
and its not just the radical islam who thinks that.
 
brinktk said:
The first Gulf War was because Iraq invaded Kuwait...where was the coalition support for Iran when they invaded them...Oh...wait...the US sold BILLIONS in arms to the Iraqis to fight against the "Islamist" Iranians...Two short years after that war the very weapons we sold to the Iraqis were used first against the Kuwaitis and then against the coalition during Desert Storm.

The second Gulf War was prosecuted on extremely shoddy or even false intelligence. There was no connection between Iraq and the radical Muslems, and the WMD threat was grossly over estimated or even falsified to make Iraq out as much bigger threat than they actually were. To this day, the huge stockpiles we were expected to find in Iraq have not materialized...and trust me...we looked.

Radical Muslems didn't enter Iraq until AFTER we went there...not before.
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Back in early 2003 I spent a couple of weeks on a course with a guy who had just returned from Iraq working as a UN weapons inspector and he was adamant that there was nothing there, his explanation was that the US was looking for any pretext to invade and was counting dual purpose items (for example chemicals used in the agricultural industry suddenly become WMD ingredients) to generate its figures.
 
MontyB said:
Back in early 2003 I spent a couple of weeks on a course with a guy who had just returned from Iraq working as a UN weapons inspector and he was adamant that there was nothing there, his explanation was that the US was looking for any pretext to invade and was counting dual purpose items (for example chemicals used in the agricultural industry suddenly become WMD ingredients) to generate its figures.
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If you read the book Cobra II: The Inside Story of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq by Michael R Gordon and Bernard E Trainor , it documents in great detail how the Bush administration was set on getting into Iraq by any means necessary even before 9/11. Cheney is even quoted as saying that "we need a Pearl Harbor type event to get us into Iraq"...makes one wonder...
 
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This forum is becoming the "International Israeli Palestine Debate Forum".

I guess I should let Redleg know we are ready for the name change.
 
Yossarian said:
This forum is becoming the "International Israeli Palestine Debate Forum".

I guess I should let Redleg know we are ready for the name change.
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It certainly seems that way...

We've all fallen down the rabbit hole, with no end in sight. Perhaps agreeing to disagree would be the best course of action for all of us.
 
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