Again old news.
Israel, Greece conduct joint naval drill amid ongoing tension with Turkey
U.S. Sixth Fleet also participating in the exercise, which includes simulation of attack on offshore natural gas platforms.
Greece rejects joint maneuver with Israel against Iran
Again old news.
Israel, Greece conduct joint naval drill amid ongoing tension with Turkey
U.S. Sixth Fleet also participating in the exercise, which includes simulation of attack on offshore natural gas platforms.
senojekips
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Aahhh,.. so that means that the Greeks did not reject the joint maneuver in question? You're very astute,...
First it was better I would have said Zionist not Jews because most of Jews are not Zionist. I know most of Jews who have migrated to Israel, do this for a better life condition not for Zionist idea.
Second how many of these elites agree with Zionist crimes?
http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/study_res/einstein/nyt_letter.html
Third in my opinion Jews can have country and live anywhere they want only in one condition. They don’t get that land with force, don’t kill and stray the people who are living there and get their satisfaction to live there. Which one has done with Israel?
Forth I don’t like to compare Iranian with other races, it is the thing I have learned from my country culture but if it is inevitable, with a history and civilization more than 7000 years, I don’t have any problem.
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senojekips
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Arabs had developed such sciences surgery, astronomy and invented such things as abstract mathmatics when the forebears of the Jews were still scratching in the dirt somewhere in Asia Minor. The Great Library at Alexandria in Egypt is recognised as having been the largest library of science and mathematics in the ancient world until 48BCE when it was "accidentally" burned down by Julius Caesar.
Among more recent noted scholars there are people like,
- Abd el-Latif el-Baghdadi (1162, Baghdad, Iraq – 1231) physician, historian and Egyptologist
- Ahmad al-Qalqashandi (1355 or 1356, Nile Delta, Egypt – 1418)
- Ahmad Bilal Yousaf (April 18, 1721 – January 21, 1782)
- Alsayed Ali Ahmad Alshaykh (1759, Alexandria, Egypt – 1848)
- Averroes - See Ibn Rushd
- Avempace - See Ibn Bajjah
- Abulcasis - See Al-Zahrawi
- Ahmad ibn Fadlan (10th century, Baghdad,Iraq) writer and traveler; member of an embassy of the Caliph of Baghdad to the Volga Bulgars
- Ahmad ibn Majid (1432, Ras al-Khaimah, UAE - 1500,?) navigator and poet
- Ahmed ibn Yusuf (835, Baghdad - 912, Egypt) - mathematician
- Ali Ben Isa (9th century)
- Ali ibn Ridwan (c. 988, Giza, Egypt - 1061) astronomer and geometer with Khalid Ben Abdulmelik
- Al-Asma'i (739, Basra, Iraq - 831, Basra, Iraq) pioneer of zoology, botany and animal husbandry
- Abubacer - See Ibn Tufail
- Ahmed Zewail - See Ahmed Zewail
- Ibn Tahir al-Baghdadi (980, Baghdad, Iraq - 1037, ?) arithmetic
- Al-Baqillani (?, Basra, Iraq - 1013, Basra, Iraq) theologian, scholar, and Maliki lawyer
- Al-Battani (850, Harran, Turkey - 929, Qasr al-Jiss, Iraq) astronomer and mathematician
- Haly Abenragel (Abû l-Hasan 'Alî ibn Abî l-Rijâl) (? - 1037, Kairouan, Tunisia) astrologer, best known for his Kitāb al-bāri' fi akhām an-nujūm
- Ibn Hawqal (943, Baghdad,Iraq - 969,? ) writer, geographer, and chronicler
- Hassan Hanafi (born 1935 in Cairo, Egypt) professor and chair of philosophy at Cairo University
- Al-Hajjāj ibn Yūsuf ibn Matar (786 – 833) mathematician
- Jabir ibn Hayyan 722 - 804 chemist
- Abū Muhammad al-Hasan al-Hamdānī (893, Yemen - 945, Sanaa, Yemen) geographer, historian and astronomer
- Ibn Hubal (1122, Baghdad, Iraq - 1213) physician, scientist and author of a medical compendium
- Jabir ibn Aflah (1100, Seville, Spain - 1160, ? ) influential astronomer and mathematician
- Al-Jayyani (989, Cordoba, Spain - 1079, Jaen, Spain) mathematician and author
- Ibn Al-Jazzar (10th century, Qairwan, Tunis) influential 10th century physician and author
- Al-Jahiz (776, Basra, Iraq - 869, Basra, Iraq) historian, biologist and author
- Al-Jawhari, Abu Alabbas (ca. 800-860) mathematician
- Ibn Jubayr (1145, Valencia, Spain - 1217, Egypt) geographer, traveller and poet, known for his detailed travel journals
- The House of Wisdom (8th-14th century), an immense scientific academy in Baghdad where an impressive collection of worldly knowledge was accumulated and developed, was an unrivaled center for the study of humanities and science.
- Jabir ibn Hayyan (722-815), known as the father of chemistry, worked in Iraq devising and perfecting the processes of sublimation, distillation, crystallization, purification, oxidation, evaporation filtration and others. He discovered processes for the preparation of hair dyes, leather and illuminating manuscript ink.
- Al-Zahrawi (936-1013), a physician and surgeon from Muslim Spain, wrote a 30-volume medical encyclopedia, giving detailed accounts of dental, pharmaceutical and surgical practices. He designed more than 200 surgical instruments such as syringes, droppers, scalpels and forceps. His book also described dyes that turned blond hair black, lotions for straightening curls and suntan lotion.
- Al-Jazari (12th century) was a highly skilled engineer from southern Turkey whose connecting rod system revolutionized the concept of automatic machines, including the Elephant Clock — a symbol of status that incorporated robotics with moving, time-telling figures
- Ibn Nafis (1210-1288), a famous philosopher and physician who was born in Syria and lived in Egypt, was the first to describe pulmonary circulation of venous blood passing into the heart and lungs via the ventricles. He was finally credited with this discovery in the early 20th century when his manuscript was discovered in Berlin.
- Sinan (1489-1588) was the master architect for the Ottoman Empire. He designed and built 477 buildings during his long career in the service of three sultans in Turkey. His work includes the Selimiye Mosque in Edirne, which has the highest, most earthquake-defying minarets in all of Turkey. His designs revolutionized the dome, allowing for greater height and size.
Yes,... I think I'd be safe in saying that they have plenty of great scholars and inventors,...National Geographic Magazine said:
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RayManKiller3
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I am starting to wonder why we all even argue about this. It is highly unlikely Israel will be abolished or move without doing it forcefully. Israel do have questionable policies, but what country don't?
Also, this thread isn't about Israel taking lands, so we should try to stay away from that subject. I believe there are 2 threads talking about it already.
We all know why Greece would decline a joint manuever with Israel. It is not because of Israel's morality, but because Greece is not in a good situation to do so.
True
defense and retaliation are not crimes.
Its NOT in the NYT's archives.
No one has a copy of the paper with it in it.
No person who "signed" the letter has a copy in their files.
And it doesn't appear in Einstein's effects.
Nor has this letter surfaced before.
It is a fake.
The Jews have a country (Israel) and occupy part of the PA. There are problems with fanatic religious Jews (settlements).
You can be proud of the rich Iranian history.
You call that "more recent" ? Look at the dates!
Now go to the same source and look up the same for the Jews. The list will be much longer.
senojekips
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Read what I post, not what you want me to have said.
Yes, they are more recent than the scholars who contributed to the Great Library of Alexandria and House of Wisdom in Baghdad. None of the scholars from these libraries are listed as they were both totally destroyed but they must have been in the many hundreds. The Baghdad House of wisdom is considered to be the earliest example of what we today, call a university
My list is just a very small sampling, as I'm sure you are well aware, just like your list of four Jewish notables
If you are so anxious, why don't you list the Jewish inventors and scholars from that time, who contributed notable works to the sciences of today. What did your last slave die of?
As I have already said in answer to your original question. Yes,... I think I'd be safe in saying that they have plenty of great scholars and inventors,... Very safe.
Thank you! At last, an admission that the Palestinian resistance to Israel's occupation and on going ethnic cleansing is not a crime.
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The Palestinians, at that time they called themselves Syrians, were the first to attack. Also after the decleration of independence it was the Palestinian irregulars and Arab armies that attacked.
”...If statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in the blaze of the Milky way. properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and had done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it.
The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed; and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”
- Mark Twain
(“Concerning The Jews,” Harper’s Magazine, 1899)
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senojekips
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Word games get you nowhere regardless of what they were called by anyone they are still the people referred to as Palestinians
You answered that yourself, and there is no argument that they were defending the takeover of their land This fact has been admitted by numerous Israeli statesmen and generals and posted previously
Palestinians are victims of muslim fanatics who wanted the Jews out. They just needed a reason to validate their attacks. They found it in the form of land grab while in fact is was purely religious.
I know those fake postings. Claiming things that those people never said.
I debunked your postings about those claims.
senojekips
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Disproved a dozen times as we all know that non Muslim Palestinians also want the Jews out if their land.
I see that you completely ignored my answer, and have, as usual tried to derail the debate with more previously answered questions. You stated, and I posted your quote,
Regarding your red herring: You were getting really desperate there, you think that the fact that something was not written in someone's son's diary is proof that it was never said or done,... pbbbttt!Originally Posted by VDKMSdefense and retaliation are not crimes.
Also it is an admitted fact that the Zionists run lessons teaching their stooges (like you) to "sanitize" their written history. The only problem being that there are still plenty of people who remember the truth before it was "got at"
The fact that you are finding it necessary to try and re present your previously disproven stories, is proof that you have obviously run out of excuses, and so unless you can find some new material, I will do as I have with Delboy and ignore you (for the same reasons).
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Correction, you think you know. An individual's opinion is not the same as disproved a dozen times. I showed you facts. But you don't like them so you ignore it.
You didn't give an answer you only rehearse you're old lies and fabricated truths.
Then show what they "sanatized". The best thing you can come up with is that wikipedia story that was revealed before they could do something. And it was not about "sanatizing" but about correcting.
That were not disproven stories but facts you refuse to see.
Hre's some new material:
When your cause is just, you don’t need fake-out photos
“Palestinian” Fake Images Industry
lots of links here.
CNN Withdraws Apparently Faked Video of CPR Attempt on 'Dead' Palestinian Child
That's all for today. Happy reading.
YuriBierazo
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I just Lol'd did you just suggest that the Jews were better than the Persians, Egyptians, and the Romans? The Jews never had a empire and would get owned by all of those that you listed beat the Jews in time. Why is it there are still Persians, Egyptians etc if they just vanished like you said.
PS. I don't think iv ever been able to play as the Jewish empire in Age of empires like you can the Romans, Egyptians etc :lol:
hghlndr6
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VDKMS didn't say it. Mark Twain said it.
(Concerning The Jews, Harper's Magazine, March, 1898.)
You can find it here ...last page, last 2 paragraphs.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1898twain-jews.asp
senojekips
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Well, that lot deserves a typical VDKMS response.
You didn't give an answer you only rehearse your old disproven lies and fabricated truths. Does that sound familiar?:lol:
I just loved your "facts" one based on the opinion of a pro Zionist Blogger another a blatant Israeli propaganda rag, your answers are getting more feeble minded by the day.
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Then proove they are wrong. But you surely did belive that Palestinian story about that girl didn't you? You like such news, fake or not.
senojekips
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I have proved you wrong. You state that the Palestinians resist because the land is "Muslim Land" and I pointed out that the Christian Palestinians also want to be rid of Israel so you are wrong. Then to divert the debate, you start dragging out pro Israeli blogs. None of which proved anything, (as usual). Plenty of children have been murdered by the IDF and it has been witnessed by International aid agencies
As I said you are just repeating your already disproven lies. End of story.
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You didn't prove anything, you only listed the opinion of a Palestinian Christian. I proved that the Christian community in the Palestinian territories is decreasing and the one in Israel is increasing. If you were right this would be the way around.
About the picture of the child.
This was the beginning (2012)
The truth
Reuters issued the caption correction on Aug. 10, 2006.
You do not know the difference between murder and collateral damage.
The IDF doesn't target children, islamic fanatics from Gaza do, they even shoot an RPG at a school bus and you call that defense????