Israel , America or palestine is terriost ?

i wish you had the balls to say that to my face... im not as old as you but im no child, my age is not the subject. you hide behind you screen and your wrong idiotic lie you get from the internet while you know nothing about whats going happening here... i seriously dont know why i keep arguing with you, it doesnt lead anywhere and it wont anytime soon, not untill you come to israel and face reality.
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Your age is most certainly a problem, because you seem to want the respect due to an adult, while you think you can act like a spoilt brat making threats you can't back up, and whose lies are continually disproved. The fact that you would make veiled threats whilst knowing you are in no position to act on them is a typical example of your lack of maturity. Your problem is that here on the internet you are not protected by your corrupt police and government, if you talk sh!t, you will be treated accordingly.
 
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Your age is most certainly a problem, because you seem to want the respect due to an adult, while you think you can act like a spoilt brat making threats you can't back up, and whose lies are continually disproved. The fact that you would make veiled threats whilst knowing you are in no position to act on them is a typical example of your lack of maturity. Your problem is that here on the internet you are not protected by your corrupt police and government, if you talk sh!t, you will be treated accordingly.

i didnt said that as a treat, i said that if you were in israel and seeing what really happens... you take everything out of context dont you? dont bs me with you stupid "im mature you are not just because im older" sentences... you act like a child and than think you deserve respect. you are a coward bullsh!ter and you will be treated accordingly.
 
And explain to me how having Israel as a democracy in that region is an advantage to us. Explain to me EXACTLY what Israel can do for the US that can possibly compare to what the US provides Israel?

As far as I'm concerned, Israel has been a really shitty ally. What do we get out of this one sided alliance?

An ally that will spy on you, sell your technology to the highest bidder and shoot up your ships plus a bunch of pissed off Saudis to fly planes into your buildings, what more could you possibly want from a friend.

I am sure someone is getting something from your friendship it just may not be you.
 
No I've forgotten nothing especially in this case where WP was deliberately being used in residential areas. Also people are at far greater risk of death from shrapnel and deliberate small arms fire in the open. When being attacked, it is normal that you look for shelter, not expose yourself in the open. Obviously you Belgians do it differently.

You're kidding, aren't you? Who in the hell would stay in a house that's going to be bombed!!! Unless of course you share the same logic as Hamas and want those people to be killed so you can show them to the press, and to make things worse, throw in a few dead from accidents or failed Hamas rocket launches.

Again you deliberately avoid what was actually said and attempt to divert the facts. Please quote where I stated the the use of WP is illegal? (although it's use against civilians in this situation amounted to a war crime)
What I did imply was that because the Israelis realised the the world was up in arms over their deliberate improper use of this weapon as an antipersonnel weapon designed to cause maximum civilian casualties, (high airburst) in heavily populated residential areas, they immediately denied having used it. This lie was uncovered very quickly and once discovered, they announced an internal inquiry. (We all know about the impartiality of Israeli inquiries don't we)

"There are two types of white phosphorus (WP) smoke shells, one bursting and one with base ejection of smoke producing material. The bursting shells produce an immediate white smoke screen through the sudden oxidation of phosphorus in air. The base ejection shells emit larger discrete phosphorus-soaked felt that disperses and allows the phosphorus to oxidise more slowly. The ones that Israel are accused of using (so far) is the base ejection shells that are really only useful in producing smoke screens and not so useful for their incendiary effect. They are also safer in their usual deployment since the phosphorus is embedded in a carrier, making it far easier to treat incidental burn injuries."

The American Federation of Scientists fact sheet on white phosphorus describes it as having "low lethality" when used as intended. The fact sheet adds that "under that qualification, WP [White Phosphorus] is not necessarily considered an ‘incendiary weapon’ if it incidentally sets buildings on fire.

There is no evidence that Israel intentionally used white phosphorus as an anti-personnel incendiary weapon.
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So if it were not improper to use this weapon, why was it's use denied,... then once the lie was uncovered, an inquiry was announced in a futile attempt to appease world opinion?

ROE were violated. Two IDF officers were disciplined for using white phosphorous in Gaza offensive.

And explain to me how having Israel as a democracy in that region is an advantage to us. Explain to me EXACTLY what Israel can do for the US that can possibly compare to what the US provides Israel?

As far as I'm concerned, Israel has been a really shitty ally. What do we get out of this one sided alliance?

Iron Dome, UAV (Israel was first), Israeli advisers are helping train US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations in Iraq (2003) or read the top 64 innovations developed in Israel, a lot of them are used in the US.
If Israel was not a priority for the US they would have already dropped it.

Your age is most certainly a problem, because you seem to want the respect due to an adult, while you think you can act like a spoilt brat making threats you can't back up, and whose lies are continually disproved. The fact that you would make veiled threats whilst knowing you are in no position to act on them is a typical example of your lack of maturity. Your problem is that here on the internet you are not protected by your corrupt police and government, if you talk sh!t, you will be treated accordingly.

I removed the image because it is in violation of the forum rules.

When are YOU going to give the facts that someone is telling a lie, because all I hear is the same BS from you. You call everyone that does not agree with you a liar and start insulting them.

An ally that will spy on you, sell your technology to the highest bidder and shoot up your ships plus a bunch of pissed off Saudis to fly planes into your buildings, what more could you possibly want from a friend.

I am sure someone is getting something from your friendship it just may not be you.

will spy on you - and the US is not spying on them???

And now give facts about :

- sell your technology to the highest bidder - what technology, when and to whom?

- shoot up your ships plus - what ships ? Plural!

- pissed off Saudis to fly planes into your buildings - give evidence!!

- what more could you possibly want from a friend. - elaborate

are you going to answer this or are you going to ignore it for a few days and come back with the same BS like it never happened.
 
i didnt said that as a treat, i said that if you were in israel and seeing what really happens...
You said and I quote....
i wish you had the balls to say that to my face...
I never said at any time it was "a threat", in fact i implied that it was just the reverse. It was a stupid immature and totally irrelevant remark that could only be made while you are 6000 miles away behind your keyboard.

FFS stop lying, and then trying to squirm out of it. This is another perfect example that proves my point regarding your childlike immaturity. And no doubt you wonder why Israel has no credibility, it's because of idiots like you.

I know that lying and whining seems to be a Zionazi trait and you have learned your lessons well
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You're kidding, aren't you? Who in the hell would stay in a house that's going to be bombed!!! Unless of course you share the same logic as Hamas and want those people to be killed so you can show them to the press, and to make things worse, throw in a few dead from accidents or failed Hamas rocket launches.
You are an idiot aren't you? Obviously not every building on Gaza is going to be bombed, and civilians stand a far better chance staying indoors that being out in the open to be killed by blast, shrapnel and WP burns (and there were many of those anyway) I'll give you an example, when the Germans were bombing London, what was the recommended course of action for the civil population, to stay indoors and seek shelter or run out into the open? Other than that, as has been pointed out ad infinitum, In Gaza, being so small there was no where safe to run.

There is no evidence that Israel intentionally used white phosphorus as an anti-personnel incendiary weapon.
Pbbbttt,.. is that another one of your Zionazi jokes?
Israel accused of indiscriminate phosphorus use in Gaza Human Rights Watch report claims Israel committed war crimes in its use of air-burst white phosphorus artillery shells
ROE were violated. Two IDF officers were disciplined for using white phosphorous in Gaza offensive.
Why are you telling me this, the world knows that ROE were violated, but that is only a minor matter compared with the intentional crimes against humanity. Tell us how these cowardly war criminals were disciplined? A tacit pat on the back a promotion and moved sideways into some cushy job for 12 months? We are all well aware of Israel's "inquiries' and their lack of any honesty or real justice.

I removed the image because it is in violation of the forum rules.
And since when were you made a moderator? If you want to follow the rules you'd be well advised that it is against those rules to act as a moderator.

When are YOU going to give the facts that someone is telling a lie, because all I hear is the same BS from you. You call everyone that does not agree with you a liar and start insulting them.
The proof is there and anyone other than the Zionazi supporters are quickly and easily able to see it. The very fact that you imply Israel is not guilty of war crimes is a lie and it has been shown many many times with citations from the Israel Law Resource Center.
 
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Sorry,I want ask a question? Why Usa support Israeli try his best ,don't support Palastain?Did the USA owe Israeli many thing?

According some analyst claim, Jews are very important influence in American politic,economic and media ,financial.
U.S. "Forbes" magazine list the richest in USA 2012, 21 of the top 40 richest are Jews. Thus, a joke in the USA :" Jews not only "control" Wall Street, "rule" in Hollywood, even "manipulation" of the U.S. news media, even President of USA is also elected by Jewish."
The population of Jews in USA only about six millions.
As a asian people ,I had no feeling about Jews,I don't hate them,or neither love them! Just feeling they are very smart!
I just curiosity! Why Jews nationality had so big power in the world?
 
Jews had any racial characteristics? From Human subjects,most of Jews belong Caucasian! But from their facial features identify:
Some of them look like the middle European,east European and west European. Had blond hair and white skin. Some of Jews look like South European,had black hair and brown skin! Some of them even look like Arabs,had big nose! what is more ,I heard some black Jews lived in Ethiopia?

I am faint, OH, Gov save me !:crybaby:
 
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Jews had any racial characteristics? From Human subjects,most of Jews belong Caucasian! But from their facial features identify:
Some of them look like the middle European,east European and west European. Had blond hair and white skin. Some of Jews look like South European,had black hair and brown skin! Some of them even look like Arabs,had big nose! what is more ,I heard some black Jews lived in Ethiopia?

I am faint, OH, Gov save me !:crybaby:

are you serious? i have many black friends that are jewish... and few asians also... and alot of my friend are from arab origins (myself included) and many from europe.
 
You are an idiot aren't you? Obviously not every building on Gaza is going to be bombed, and civilians stand a far better chance staying indoors that being out in the open to be killed by blast, shrapnel and WP burns (and there were many of those anyway) I'll give you an example, when the Germans were bombing London, what was the recommended course of action for the civil population, to stay indoors and seek shelter or run out into the open? Other than that, as has been pointed out ad infinitum, In Gaza, being so small there was no where safe to run.

You seem to forget what it was all about. Read post #214. It was about warning people that the area they were living in was going to be bombed. So you advice those people to stay in the house that's going to be bombed. That's almost a war crime.

In London in WWII people looked for shelter in the subway. Staying in the house was not recommended. What was recommended is that the people, as soon as the air attack sirens went off, must hurry as quicly as possible to an air shelter (subway) or to their own shelters (Anderson shelters). The only indoor shelter that was advised was the Morrison shelter. Palestinians don't have shelters in their house, and hiding under the table won't protect you.
Lots of warned Palestinians went to UN schools for shelter. It saved their lives. If they would have followed your advice, lots of them would have been killed. But that's what you like isn't it? Like Hamas. Then they can complain how many civilians died by Israeli bombs.

Pbbbttt,.. is that another one of your Zionazi jokes?

No, the truth.

...Human Rights Watch report claims...​

not prove.

Why are you telling me this, the world knows that ROE were violated, but that is only a minor matter compared with the intentional crimes against humanity. Tell us how these cowardly war criminals were disciplined? A tacit pat on the back a promotion and moved sideways into some cushy job for 12 months? We are all well aware of Israel's "inquiries' and their lack of any honesty or real justice.

Before you can say that it was indeed a crime against humanity you must prove that they targeted civilians deliberately. The real reason why those officers violated the ROE at that time was to protect the soldiers from enemy fire.

And since when were you made a moderator? If you want to follow the rules you'd be well advised that it is against those rules to act as a moderator.

What a silly answer. A moderator will delete the image from every post. I just didn't post it in the reply. If you are so sure I am wrong then make a complaint.

The proof is there and anyone other than the Zionazi supporters are quickly and easily able to see it. The very fact that you imply Israel is not guilty of war crimes is a lie and it has been shown many many times with citations from the Israel Law Resource Center.

The Israel Law Resource Center hu.
"The information from this website cannot be considered to be legal advice at all."​

Sorry,I want ask a question? Why Usa support Israeli try his best ,don't support Palastain?Did the USA owe Israeli many thing?

According some analyst claim, Jews are very important influence in American politic,economic and media ,financial.
U.S. "Forbes" magazine list the richest in USA 2012, 21 of the top 40 richest are Jews. Thus, a joke in the USA :" Jews not only "control" Wall Street, "rule" in Hollywood, even "manipulation" of the U.S. news media, even President of USA is also elected by Jewish."
The population of Jews in USA only about six millions.
As a asian people ,I had no feeling about Jews,I don't hate them,or neither love them! Just feeling they are very smart!
I just curiosity! Why Jews nationality had so big power in the world?

The asnwer is very simple. They don't complain. After a setback they roll up their sleeves and start working again.

A good comparison are the refugees. Jewish refugees settled elsewere and started a new life. "Palestinian" refugees are still holed up in camps demanding that UNRWA give them everything.

Another good example is Israel vs "Palestine". Both started in miserable conditions. Now look at the BNP of Israel and "Palestine".

The problem is that the Palestinians want the destruction of Israel and don't care about their people.
 
so the jews isn'st consist of one race ? It include white jews,black jews ,arab jews and yellow jews? :cool: Oh,I pass out again!

So tell between a jews depend on what? For instance, some group people they all believe Judaism,so they all belong the Jews?

are you serious? i have many black friends that are jewish... and few asians also... and alot of my friend are from arab origins (myself included) and many from europe.
 
so the jews isn'st consist of one race ? It include white jews,black jews ,arab jews and yellow jews? :cool: Oh,I pass out again!

So tell between a jews depend on what? For instance, some group people they all believe Judaism,so they all belong the Jews?

Now you are starting to understand why most sane people regard the "Middle Eastern" connection as a giant steaming pile.

What you have is a bunch of people from around the world that share a religion not an ethnicity who have found that they could over power the inhabitants of an area to form their own country and have done so through the use of terrorism and relying on the silence and guilt of western nations over the holocaust to turn a blind eye to a continuing land grab.

The mistake they have made however is that as with most expansionist regimes they don't know when to stop and are now starting to incur the scrutiny of the world who have grown heartily sick of them and the cry wolf mentality that comes with them.

Now I have no doubt that our resident Israeli's will invite us to come and take a look before making up our minds but in the end it doesn't matter whether Israeli's are the closest things to angels on earth, Israel paradise and the Palestinians are all demons, Israel is still a nation built on stolen land and much like fruit being rotten at the core will never produce a good apple.
 
so the jews isn'st consist of one race ? It include white jews,black jews ,arab jews and yellow jews? :cool: Oh,I pass out again!

So tell between a jews depend on what? For instance, some group people they all believe Judaism,so they all belong the Jews?

if they believe in the judaism beliefs than yes, they are jews.
 
Udaka was 100% correct. He implied that Jews are not a race, they are just a religion.

No one can change their race, a Caucasian cannot become Asiatic nor Negroid nor the reverse,.... but anyone can become a Jew.

Judaism is only a Religion.
Wrong,Jews are a ethnoreligious group.
You cannot become a jew unless your mother is a jew.
You should've read in wikipedia before you posted it.
A jew can be athiest jew.
 
Absolutely. Which is why I have told Tweedledum to stop boasting that he is Jewish.

He even has Tweedledee spouting know- nothing rubbish regarding the Jewish race. Just as he did regarding Israeli warnings to civilian populations in Gaza. Pathetic.
Tweedledum and Tweedledee - DNA says try again.
 
How we can kown someone's mother are Jews? They have same DNA?

For exampe : a black men met a white man, the black say " I am a Jews,
The white man said:" I am a Jews ,too. "Another Arab man with big nose call in: I am a Jews ,too,brother!:mrgreen:
How do you judge DNA of a European,a African and a Arab man are the same?

Wrong,Jews are a group.
You cannot become a jew unless your mother is a jew.
You should've read in wikipedia before you posted it.
A jew can be athiest jew.
 
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How we can kown someone's mother are Jews? They have same DNA?

For exampe : a black men met a white man, the black say " I am a Jews,
The white man said:" I am a Jews ,too. "Another Arab man with big nose call in: I am a Jews ,too,brother!:mrgreen:
How do you judge DNA of a European,a African and a Arab man are the same?

why do you think all jews have a big nose?
 
How we can kown someone's mother are Jews? They have same DNA?

For exampe : a black men met a white man, the black say " I am a Jews,
The white man said:" I am a Jews ,too. "Another Arab man with big nose call in: I am a Jews ,too,brother!:mrgreen:
How do you judge DNA of a European,a African and a Arab man are the same?
It goes from generation to generation.
And yes,you can also see it in the DNA.
And the big nose,is pretty childish and idiotic.
 
Wrong,Jews are a ethnoreligious group.
You cannot become a jew unless your mother is a jew.
You should've read in wikipedia before you posted it.
Typical Zionazi Bullsh!t,... absolutely anyone can become a Jew if they wish, there are millions of apostates within Judaism which includes nearly all Ashkenazi Jews as they are for the most part Khazars who converted. You can't have it both ways. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0012_0_11089.html
Judaism 101 said:
A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism. Source: http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

When I joined the Navy I gave my religion as C of E, however I have never been christened nor had I ever set foot in a C of E Church. You can claim to be whatever you wish because unfortunately for this debate Rabbinical law means nothing if you are not a "religious" Jew. It has no weight in law and is merely a religious thing, and if you care to do a bit of reading you will find that not even all Rabbinical scholars agree on who is a Jew.

There are hundreds of references to this including fro the Jewish Virtual library.
 
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