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If we in the west want Ukraine to be successful in this fight we need to go all in and provide with what Ukraine needs.
Should say "fragrant lack of intelligence"....Scholz is an idiot.
Germany still seems like an ever growing waste of space, they were given a way out where they swapped Storm Shadow missiles for Taurus ones and they ran away from that, now this.
How weak do they intend to portray themselves?
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British soldiers helping fire Ukrainian missiles, Olaf Scholz reveals
German chancellor criticised for ‘flagrant abuse of intelligence’ that could endanger UK personnel on the ground and help the Russianswww.telegraph.co.uk
Seems the French are planning to do just that...I agree with the defense companies setting up shops in Ukraine. You have suggested it before, haven't you? It will make the logistics much easier.
I think the best option at this point would be to plan on not having the US anywhere for at least the next 5 years.It can be dangerous to be an enemy to the US, but it can be even more dangerous to be an ally to the US.
I'm sure this would be considered direct intervention.could air defence batteries in Romania defend Odessa?
Not necessarily, Romania has a right to defend its territory and if Russian missiles are landing a few hundred metres from it or flying through its territory then I think it has the right to take action, all it really needs is Ukraine to allow it.I'm sure this would be considered direct intervention.
Odessa would be a bit of a stretch. You see Mongolia sent Russia a map showing all of Russia in the Mongolian Empire...Not necessarily, Romania has a right to defend its territory and if Russian missiles are landing a few hundred metres from it or flying through its territory then I think it has the right to take action, all it really needs is Ukraine to allow it.
Hell Poland could use the Russian argument and defend Polish speakers in western Ukraine, they don't need troops to enter Ukraine just provide long range air defence thus reducing Russian avenues of attack.
Basically the west could play the Russian BS game and use plausible deniability.
It would just be a way of channeling Russian drones and missiles into a narrow corridor that Ukraine could defend with less resources.Odessa would be a bit of a stretch. You see Mongolia sent Russia a map showing all of Russia in the Mongolian Empire...
I can accept that they don't want to send them to Ukraine but I don't understand why they won't do the swap with the UK and France.The Germans are obstructing again (The Taurus missiles)
I agree but I think we need to be there in a more active capacity, for example I still think they could have hired trained F-16 pilots to get the F-16s up and running quicker.I think the West (NATO and others) have military personnel in Ukraine. If, let say a Leo needs to be repaired, it is much easier to repair it in Ukraine than to drag it to Poland to do it. In addition to that. The different NATO special forces are most likely operating and training the Ukrainians
It took place because, as Kennan pointed out correctly during the late 1990s, if the U.S. and NATO expand, then it will lead to red lines crossed and provoke Russia. That is what happened because U.S. Presidents did not heed warnings from their own men.
Given that, the solution is to avoid provocation and negotiate. If that can't be done, then NATO will have be embroiled in the conflict, which will make the latter worse because the West is dependent on China, Saudi Arabia, and others (BRICS and the Global South, or most countries in the world) for resources, and they want the conflict to end while becoming more distrustful of the U.S. and its allies.