California Overturns Gay Marriage

What I felt at my last job was that Apathy is evil.
I'd go into it further but I'm about to step out and get some air.
 
"Flesh eating bacteria" which eats humans' flesh and homosexuality :​


Image (1) Identification of the virus which eat human flesh under the microscope and showed in their normal color.​

Preparation researcher Jin Mohamed Zain​




















The latest scientific research on homosexuality

this research, published on 15/1/2008 in U.S. and recent researches for diseases of gay sex

The homosexual men and sexually-called gay or homosexual sodomites because of the peace or act of the so-called practitioners of homosexual or indecent behavior, men are the perpetrators of this act with the young boys do not know who committed the guilt or with men, including the likes of force The change of sex to female.

I read a news story on AL JAZEERA which made me do this research on diseases transmitted through homosexual, and found amazing things I will start Manuscript read where U.S. medical study has shown that gay men are most at risk of a new strain of bacteria resistant to antibiotics known as the bacteria-eating human flesh [1]



The risk of this kind of gay bacteria through sexual relations with three other anomalous than ten times. The severe infection caused by bacteria infection called "Stafilecoqs aureus resistant Mthicelin", known for short b MRSA bacteria are resistant to most antibiotics known [2].

According to the study, this new strain of the bacteria - which have existed in the past confined to hospitals - still develop resistance to the most powerful antibiotics known, and can be moved to the groups where prevalence of the disease incidental contact as well.

Said study author Dr. Penh DIEPPE - researcher Hospital Medical Center of San Francisco - The bacteria infection affecting mainly homosexuals in locations where there is thin skin skin contact during the abnormal relations.

Including the problem that doctors fear is that this virus that has spread a lot of it becomes difficult to stop [3].

And the publication of the study had a special anti-Gay, the so-called Gay, name: the truth about America's gay homosexual and founder of a conservative Americans [4].

And the sudden now that the proportion of people in America are dying because of this virus is more than the proportion of people dying of HIV [5].

, Said the BBC British same subject research pointed to the emergence of a new type of bacteria violent "M RSA" the most deadly can lead to illness Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome ulcerative type resulting in erosion and damage to lung tissue, causing bacteria Bdmaml substantial injury to the skin, and in some severe cases may lead to deadly blood poisoning [6].




U.S. and one of the sites say why some people do not call homosexuality is risk of health, and that must be isolated from the rest of the people [7].

And the WHO says it spends tens of millions to fight sexual diseases caused by homosexuality, and prevent innocent people who receive these diseases because of irregularities husband or blood transfusion, and we must not forget the known diseases (gonorrhea, genital ulcers, Aldbelp groin, swelling Sufni, conjunctivitis Neonatal, syphilis or the so-called Balofranji virus, AIDS, clap, ulcers or soft Alqrih, venereal warts, Alhabibom Almbgeni, genital herpes, and others have not been disclosed or discovered ...

Gental Warts, Genetal Herpes, Chanchroid, Granuloma Inguinalis, Syphilis, Gonorrhea, AIDS, etc ..

And the proportion of people who get cancer of the vulnerability of homosexuals are ordinary people so that there are particular cancer name Kaposi sarcoma has emerged in recent studies are still around, which resides in abundance among homosexuals in California and Los Angeles [8].



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sorry for the language coz i translated it from arabic site.anyway the most important thing is the idea.
the link
http://www.55a.net/firas/arabic/?page=show_det&id=1612&select_page=3
 
hmmm do you have any other source?
Then again, this might be too "politically incorrect" to surface in our neck of the woods.
Political correctness... whoever came up with that? Basically a maze of euphemisms and excuses that muddle up the picture and prevent correct action from being taken.
 
Oh come on I am sure the government could assign you a hairy Scotsman or something.


I am half a hairy Scotsman myself. ( Dunbar school. Ist Bn.HLI.!)

But actually I have claimed exemption as a conscientious objector.:)

BTW - actually I am not being diversionary, my original statement was based upon the creeping political agenda introduced to our primary and up schools, which is becoming more and more compulsory. It is certainly not allowed that anyone should suggest that homosexual practice is not on a par with heterosexual marriage, as an alternative life style to be applauded. So homosexuality and its practices are promoted to our small children. This is a far cry from taking a non-judgemental stance.


I would say that your posts are usually well measured, but I remain a 'conscientious objector ' personally, and especially to the political promotion I refer to. And of course, on that basis, the equation then includes myself and other parents and families very importantly.
 
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I have never met people so determined to get angry over an act that doesn't affect them in any way shape or form, I could perhaps understand it if there was a potential negative aspect to it (as there would be in allowing incest or child pornography) but in this case you are dealing with the actions of two consenting adults in the privacy of their own homes.

If they kept it in the privacy of their own homes I wouldnt *****, but as I keep saying, they ram their sexuality down other peoples throats and demand that we accept their way of life.

I that makes me a bigot, then damn right, I'm a major big time diehard bigot.
 
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This is a matter of fact and personal opinion, not all things need to be to be justified by logic to be correct.

It's like a person having a dislike of a Brussel sprouts,... no amount of "logical or learned debate" can make that person like them. In this case it appears that the majority of persons in California have voted that homosexual marriage should not have official recognition. That carries far more weight than any amount of "logic". Well,... it did last time I lived in a democratic society.

in fact i think logic does not related of what we like or dislike,human beings are controlled by axioms,i mean that there are rules and laws that control us ,even animals have innate laws or actions,for instance in procreation Intermarriage between animals are between male and female,not between male and male.my point here is logical rules are the standard and ideal rules for all human beings that should not be violated.for instance humans do their need in the bath room,therefor you may find people who like to do that in the street in the pretext that they like that.you see?
homosextuality is an ill which needs psychlogical treatment not official recognition.
frankly speaking,in my openion:
homosexuality must not be treated as a normal thing,therefore it should stiil and be a rare thing and condition,other wise that means catastrophic distruction for human kind.
i am sorry but this is my openion frankly.

thanx.
 
Chukpike said:
They will focus their efforts on legislation and the courts. They are willing to bypass the ulimate right of the people to decide.

This view scares the hell out of me. I do not believe the State has any right to overide the will of the people.

It always scares me a little when people take this so very litteral. Somebody else said this better than I can:

How fortunate for leaders that men do not think. - Adolf Hitler
And if somebody should have any experience with the control of the people it would be him...
You probably guessed it already. I think the change of any legislation should be left to people who studied the issue. Leaving it to leemen is asking for trouble, for they are too easily focussing themselves on details and forgetting to global picture. And once again a much wiser man than me put this much better:

In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. - Friedrich Nietsche

Senojekips said:
Ted, could you please define "Love".

I love my children, but I'm not wanting to, nor legally allowed to marry them.

Please don't play semantics Senojekips; you love your wife and you were wanting to marry her and it was legal too. I defined love as the sincere wish to share your life together for better or for worse. The kind you feel for you spouse. I love my cats too....

the_13th_warrior said:
BritinAfrica, our rights don't count. Remember? Because what we value is a bit "too normal" to be given any kind of "protected" status.
Sure your rights count, but some of us think that the same goes for others too. And yes, you have a right to disagree. But you can't exclude others their wishes because you disagree!

senojekips said:
The death of democracy is not likely to be an assasination from ambush. but more likely a slow extinction from apathy and indifference to that which is right.

And here I was thinking that democracy was about personal freedom and the right to express yourself, as long as you don't inflict harm to others. But wanting the right to marry the partner of your chosing has been promoted to "death of democracy". We are making progress....

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And all of a sudden Al Jazeera is a solid, scientific source. That is very convinient isn't it? We all know the point of view by Islamics on homo's. But we can say the same about their point of view on Israeli's or Christians.
 

Said study author Dr. Penh DIEPPE - researcher Hospital Medical Center of San Francisco - The bacteria infection affecting mainly homosexuals in locations where there is thin skin skin contact during the abnormal relations.

They're not abnormal relations... Men and women have **** sex too... What about them? Do they deserve to not be allowed to be married? Perhaps the government should just confine our sexuality to missionary position, and only for procreation. I'd just like to see how they can contain it. Look, it's like Mmarsh said... As long as they aren't hitting on me, or affecting me in any way, I don't care. It's their choice, and who are we to stop them... Let me go ahead and pull out the ultimate quotes
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Or if you like
"Before you reach to remove the speck in your neighbors eye, be sure to remove the plank from your own."
 
And all of a sudden Al Jazeera is a solid, scientific source. That is very convinient isn't it? We all know the point of view by Islamics on homo's. But we can say the same about their point of view on Israeli's or Christians.

Actually I asked for a different source.
In case you didn't notice.

And no, for those of us who have an issue with people making this bulls*** so public, our opinion doesn't seem to count at all. It's like, if you say to an ethnically "foreign" person of US citizenship, "Dammit, but you're a US citizen. Your first loyalty should be to America before any other country" and all of a sudden you're a racist and your opinion doesn't count.
 
"ram it down people's throats" what does that mean exactly???

I dont see Gays trying to ram homosexuality down my throat. I dont see "gay squads" trying to indoctrinate people into homosexuality. What I do see are gays asking to be respected and treated fairly and equally under the law which is protected as a gaurenteed under the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution. And if you oppose letting people enjoy the same rights as you do, then you are persecuting them.

Gays are born gay. The didnt choose to be gay (many wish they weren't gay), and there is no "cure" for it. Its like being born a person of color. Do you really think blacks and asians got to choose their race? Or that if they stop pretending to be Black/Asian/latino they will somehow become "normal".

That is why gays should be left alone. You dont have to approve of the gay lifestyle but you have no right to deny them the same rights you enjoy.
 
Exactly! There's nothing in the Constitution that defines marriage as between a man and a woman, so why should there be laws preventing two men from marriage?!
 
It always scares me a little when people take this so very litteral. Somebody else said this better than I can:

Quote:
How fortunate for leaders that men do not think. - Adolf Hitler

And if somebody should have any experience with the control of the people it would be him...
You probably guessed it already. I think the change of any legislation should be left to people who studied the issue. Leaving it to leemen is asking for trouble, for they are too easily focussing themselves on details and forgetting to global picture. And once again a much wiser man than me put this much better:

Not sure what you mean by "people take this so very literal". It was direct information from the article referenced.

Interesting that you would quote Hitler as an example as to why decisions are better left to the politicians. It would seem to me by selecting him, you would be giving a perfect example of what can happen when a people turn over their right to decide to the state. He cetainly made the German people look stupid and maybe complicit in what occurred after he became the ultimate authority.

I can understand why someone from a country that has been ruled by Royalty would think the leaders would know better what the people want or need than the people themselves. But since this topic is about how California decided the issue of Gay and Lesbian marriage, it would be more correct to be aware that in the United States the people hold the ultimate authority. It is obvious you don't agree but that's the way it is.

As far as the layman not being able to look at "the global picture" this was a narrow issue. The people in California could give a rats *ss how the vote was looked at globally. For that matter, when looked at by the court, the court is bound to only look at the legal issues involved.

As far as Gay's not doing any harm you only have to look at the Aids epidemic or the homosexual priests to determine their practises can effect society. Their actions for the most part were behind closed doors.

Just because Hollywood has made Aids the chic disease of the last decade it has gotten more attention and more money than malaria, pneumonia and others that kill far more people world wide. Don't believe this, just go to the World Health Organization.
 
Exactly! There's nothing in the Constitution that defines marriage as between a man and a woman, so why should there be laws preventing two men from marriage?!
*applause*

I have a feeling that we get pretty much the same treatment as after the civil rights movement in the 60s. Life goes back to normal, no questions asked.
 
Please don't play semantics Senojekips; you love your wife and you were wanting to marry her and it was legal too. I defined love as the sincere wish to share your life together for better or for worse. The kind you feel for you spouse. I love my cats too....
It is a legitimate question, because of the fact that love cannot be succinctly defined, it really cannot be used as a criteria for marriage. Marriage more than anything is no more than a legal state, either declared by the physical act of marriage, or undeclared as in common law relationships, as it's former religious meaning has long since lost any meaning.
 
Exactly! There's nothing in the Constitution that defines marriage as between a man and a woman, so why should there be laws preventing two men from marriage?!

There is nothing in the Constitution or any amendments to it that defines marriage at all. That is why it is left to the individual States. States made laws about marriage and the citizens and their state governments are free to determine who can and can't marry.

The Gay and Lesbian organizations trying to gain "equal rights" for their culture are careful in seeking relief in the courts to keep them from going beyond state jurisdiction. They do not want any cases going to the Supreme Court. If gay and lesbian preference were truly protected by the Constitution, why is that? Why spend all that money on so many individual state court fights? The answer is that the Constitution does not recognise sexual preference as a right and they know it.
 
There is nothing in the Constitution or any amendments to it that defines marriage at all. That is why it is left to the individual States. States made laws about marriage and the citizens and their state governments are free to determine who can and can't marry.

The Gay and Lesbian organizations trying to gain "equal rights" for their culture are careful in seeking relief in the courts to keep them from going beyond state jurisdiction. They do not want any cases going to the Supreme Court. If gay and lesbian preference were truly protected by the Constitution, why is that? Why spend all that money on so many individual state court fights? The answer is that the Constitution does not recognise sexual preference as a right and they know it.
You're correct, but there are rights of individuals that should override the rights of the States. According to you yourself the power of the people should be the ultimate authority, so the people should have the authority to decide who they marry, right?
 
If I may borrow the quote from Adm Pete USN ret. "live and let go on living unles sif affects you ina adverse way, then nuke it"
 
Look, it's like Mmarsh said... As long as they aren't hitting on me, or affecting me in any way, I don't care. It's their choice, and who are we to stop them... Let me go ahead and pull out the ultimate quotes
Or if you like

Yes, but if they are actively and continuously encouraging our infants to become homosexual then they are hitting on us.
 
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