JRotc_cadet
Active member
Should the U.S. government sent someone to the Paris rally instead of have them sitting in the coffee shop across the street.
U.S. under scrutiny for Paris rally
Witch compares quite nicely to the Heads of State sent by other countries. But...no problem, they have now sent John Kerry who took with him James Taylor who sang "You've got a friend"! No word if "Imagine" or "Kumbaya" were sung!
JRotc_cadet
Active member
The ambassador didn't go to the rally though
Heard he went, but Holder was in Paris & didn't go.
dadsgirl
Active member
Who cares? I mean really?
Certain heads of state that were there have their own problems..... Like "caning" bloggers or holding anti-Muslim rallies or need I really say throwing their own damn journalists into jail????!!!!!
Smile! Look pretty for the cameras! The whole World is watching now!
MontyB
All-Blacks Supporter
Who cares? I mean really?
Certain heads of state that were there have their own problems..... Like "caning" bloggers or holding anti-Muslim rallies or need I really say throwing their own damn journalists into jail????!!!!!
Smile! Look pretty for the cameras! The whole World is watching now!
I agree I don't think it really matters who showed up after all the ambassador is supposed to be the countries representative so why shouldn't they be the ones to show up.
As I have said before this was little more than a political photo-op.
mmarsh
Active member
I'd point out that the day after 9-11 (September 12, 2011) the very first head of state to visit ground zero was JACQUES CHIRAC, then President of France. Chirac visited Ground zero when Bush and Cheney were still hiding in their undisclosed rabbit holes, that was their commitment to us.
Meanwhile, Paris gets hit and all we can come with is our bench warming team. I don't think anyone in France minded too much that Obama didn't come but as a New Yorker who knew people lost on 9-11 this was embarrassing, and the White House should have known better. Its precisely the type of nasty snub I would expected from the neocon cabal, not the Democrats, although I think the reason was incompetence not nastiness in this particular instance.
Obama was more criticized for this in the US Press than the French Press.
Meanwhile, Paris gets hit and all we can come with is our bench warming team. I don't think anyone in France minded too much that Obama didn't come but as a New Yorker who knew people lost on 9-11 this was embarrassing, and the White House should have known better. Its precisely the type of nasty snub I would expected from the neocon cabal, not the Democrats, although I think the reason was incompetence not nastiness in this particular instance.
Obama was more criticized for this in the US Press than the French Press.
Yossarian
Forum Resistance Leader
Agreed, this sign of obvious support by our head of state would have shown our backing with France in the GWOT. And reassure our other partners.
"undisclosed rabbit holes" : I object very strongly to these terms : Bush and Cheney followed the rules for the eventuality of a possible nucleair attack on the US .:evil:
With friends like France who needs enemy's. Although I do give them credit for gunning down the terrorist recently. Besides I've been to Paris and was glad to be back.
I found the folks in Germany and Italy much more agreeable.
Perhaps you should serve a few years to gain some experence
MontyB
All-Blacks Supporter
Perhaps you should understand that experience in uniform doesn't make you an expert on life or politics.
If you want to try firing shots you should know that I do fire back.
I am not sure we can really compare these incidents for example did the French president show up for say the Sandy Hook memorial which was a far more similar event.
If you want to try firing shots you should know that I do fire back.
I am not sure we can really compare these incidents for example did the French president show up for say the Sandy Hook memorial which was a far more similar event.
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You spew out anti American rhetoric. If it weren’t for the hundreds of thousands of allied lives lost in liberating France it would likely still be a German colony today.
The US feeds more hungry people world wide, provides more disaster relief, allows in more immigrants than any other nation. We also provide the lion’s share of the funding for the UN. We are by no means the only provider but we do a lot for a lot of people.
Time spent in uniform will do one a world of good in understanding life as it relates to the military.
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Yossarian
Forum Resistance Leader
France is a quagmire in that respect, gratitude I am sure was felt for a period but after an attempted military coup after a presidency with no term limits in the post war period, giving respect may have been seen as an embarrassment to being occupied in the first place.
I don't really know the French mentality, however if they were truly sacrilegious about it I am sure that would have worn off decades ago by now.
Hard to say , maybe a French Citizen here could enlighten us?
I don't really know the French mentality, however if they were truly sacrilegious about it I am sure that would have worn off decades ago by now.
Hard to say , maybe a French Citizen here could enlighten us?
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MontyB
All-Blacks Supporter
The US meddles in world affairs, over throws democratically elected governments that do not support its ideologies and has declared war on more of its allies than it has its enemies so spare me the crap.
I have spent roughly eleven years on my life in the USA and even married an American there is very little you can not tell me about the place that I have not experienced for myself and for the record I like Americans one of the friendliest bunches anywhere in the world but your government is rotten to the core and what they do they do in your name so don't be surprised that you arent the popular one in the group.
As for the French they are rude, arrogant and I still don't like the fact that we let their spies go we should have shot them but they have great food, great wine, an awesome history and a nice country (but you can keep Paris) and if not for the French America would be an English colony see I can play guess alternate history as well.
As for France being a German colony I suspect it would be a Russian one by now.