phoenix80
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mmarsh said:Phoenix
No actually you are mistaken. The 45 min claim came from Iyad Allewi who was a CIA informant. Like many of the claims that came from Allewi, Chelbi and 'Curveball' that data proved to be bogus. Tony Blair just stupidly used it without checking his source, just like Bush did with the Niger Yellow cake. So now we are moving into the "could have been a threat". That is NOT what Bush told us. Bush repeatively told us Iraq was an "immient danger to US security". That either means Bush is the most incompetant president in US history or he's a liar. Saddam was a very evil man, but the sanctions limited his ability to threaten his neighbors. Had we really wanted Saddam to die, it could have been done quietly.
As for cheating and fooling the UN, there are several countries guilty about that including the US and Isreal (which has been in violation for 30 years with its settlements). We dont see anyone wanting to bomb them.
As for Iran
I know lots of Iranians in Paris, were educated in France, UK or the USA. The all want better ties with the west. The Problem is the government you just elected seems to want to do precisely the opposite. It has alienated traditional European allies such as France and the UK. So I am not sure you speak for the majority of Iranians. There is also the guardian consul who HATES the west. Frankly I dont see who relations can improve in such circumstances...
Good that you honestly ADMIT it was Chalabi and Allawi who had false intel. So it wasn't Bush fault. They dragged him into this and given the situation now, it is wrong to leave Iraq.
As for Iran, I have to repeat, we dont have democratic elections as you do in the west, The new president of Iran was chosen by the supreme leader of Iran in a sham election.
Iranian people had no say in electing that idiot hardliner.
I can tell I speak for majority of Iranians who want social freedom, reforms and secularism.