Legalize soft-drugs yes or no.

Should we legalize softdrugs?

  • yes

    Votes: 18 33.3%
  • no

    Votes: 36 66.7%

  • Total voters
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Cadet Seaman said:
Really? So when some stoned idiot smashes his car into someone who was driving their kid to get ice cream after soccer practice, he hasn't infringed upon anyone's rights.

I find myself switching views here but, whats the diffrence between that and a intoxicated person? Both will be charged for DUI and manslaughter. Its a choice you make. Honestly, I think stoned people drive better than drunks. There gona smoke rather its illegal or not. On the other hand, legality might make it substances easier get and increase the number of pot heads out on the rode.
 
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I think you made your point 5.56....... btw what would it take to change your opinion; a nice swig from my stash? :)
 
5.56X45mm said:
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Ditto!
 
Cadet Seaman said:
Really? So when some stoned idiot smashes his car into someone who was driving their kid to get ice cream after soccer practice, he hasn't infringed upon anyone's rights.


Yes he has. He shouldn't freaking drive when he's stoned. Do you think alcohol should be outlawed too now?

Because alcohol normally makes you more reckless than ganja does, while they both decrease your reaction time as much.

Maybe I should have refined my point more: I have nothing against traffic regulations restricting drug use. But if you are not going to operate heavy machinery that can be potentially harmful, you should be allowed to kick, swallow, chew, inhale whatever the hell you want.

Think about it: Giving you the right to use drugs doesn't oblige you to do so, so why forbid it?
 
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Ted said:
I think you made your point 5.56....... btw what would it take to change your opinion; a nice swig from my stash?

I'm sure thats gona happen real well.
 
Mohmar Deathstrike said:
The issue is moral: If you take any kind of drugs, it's your decision to make. It does not infringe on the freedoms of others, and therefore it should be your freedom to do so in my opinion.

Yes, it is also a moral issue. Not to mention the more readily available it will be to young people. Someone is almost always willing to buy an underage person alchohol so why not "soft-drugs"? Also, think of the impact this can possibly have on family members of those same young people.
So, yes, it does infringe on the freedoms and happiness of everyone involved or in a relationship with that person that does drugs or abuses alchohol.

But then again we are not talking of morals. We are speaking of laws and the repurcussions of those laws. Not morals or values.
 
So, yes, it does infringe on the freedoms and happiness of everyone involved or in a relationship with that person that does drugs or abuses alchohol.

But this is not only with legalized drugs! Any abuse of any substance, body, emotion, you name it infringes on the happiness and freedom of some sort. I agree that it is wrong to abuse drugs or alcohol, but that is not the only thing wrong.

And Rabs... I reckon that 5.56 should spend a night in Amsterdam and should open his mind to the legality of the many substances. After his flight home and period of de-tox, he'll find out that he isn't hooked. In fact he'll find out he is still the same person and that 30 years hard labour is not really necessary. And guess what.... I'm more than willing to aid him in his field trip overhere. (P.s. You are more then welcome to come too! Holland is quite nice in spring!)
 
(P.s. You are more then welcome to come too! Holland is quite nice in spring!)
So is West Virgina, but I do want to go to Europe sometime.

Go there and remind myself why my ancestors left :)
 
Ted said:
After his flight home and period of de-tox, he'll find out that he isn't hooked. In fact he'll find out he is still the same person and that 30 years hard labour is not really necessary.

That is what scares me, de-tox? Also a person may very well find that he/she is hooked on the feeling of being high and wants to do it again..and again..and again..etc etc. A psychological addiction is generally harder to break than a physical addiction. Combine the both and you have a problem.
 
Ted said:
I think you made your point 5.56....... btw what would it take to change your opinion; a nice swig from my stash? :)

No it won't. I have seen what "soft drugs" can do. I have seen the crime it creates. I have seen how it causes car accidents. I have seen how it leads to harder drugs and death.

No thanks, I won't touch the stuff nor do I want to go to a nation that allows it's youth to legally fry their minds.
 
Ted said:
And Rabs... I reckon that 5.56 should spend a night in Amsterdam and should open his mind to the legality of the many substances. After his flight home and period of de-tox, he'll find out that he isn't hooked. In fact he'll find out he is still the same person and that 30 years hard labour is not really necessary. And guess what.... I'm more than willing to aid him in his field trip overhere. (P.s. You are more then welcome to come too! Holland is quite nice in spring!)

Infact, I think that it shouldn't be thiry years of hard labor. It should be fority years of hard labor.

You answered the reason why drugs cause problems.

Ted said:
and period of de-tox

Some people continue doing things before they de-tox such as driving. And some people just never do de-tox. They continue hitting the stuff over and over again untill they kill themselves while stoned stupid.
 
I start the Police Academy on Tuesday 1-10-06. I know what my goal is. Work with local law enforcement for a period of about six years, get some road a field experience and apply with the DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) and become a Federal Agent with them. Maybe get into their special tactics unit.
 
I'm not surprised. If you actually plan on going into the DEA then there is literally nothing I can say to sway you. No matter what facts, figures, and personal testimoney I present, there is nothing that would change your mind.

I'm not saying this is neccessarily a bad thing because as a law enforcement officer you're tasked with being the guard dog of society. You arn't supposed to question why, you're supposed to enforce the laws that we make and you should do that to the best of your abilities.
 
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No it won't. I have seen what "soft drugs" can do. I have seen the crime it creates. I have seen how it causes car accidents. I have seen how it leads to harder drugs and death.

No thanks, I won't touch the stuff nor do I want to go to a nation that allows it's youth to legally fry their minds.

Now here is my point 5.56..... so do I! I have seen what they can do as well! I have seen how it lead to a great time with many funny encounters. The fear of addiction is non-existent; I am in control of my mind and body. I can pass all the coffeeshop and street dealers of Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Utrect and not be tempted at all! Self discipline is the key not to get hooked.

What I am trying to say 5.56 is that your black & white view on this topic cloud (imo) an open mind on this issue. Everybody is condemned before hand and should be punished as hard as possible. That is not the attitude I am looking for in a special agent (see signature). You can oppose the whole deal, but this rigid and uncompromising is not the way one should go, you included!
The rules were made to function as a guide line and within these boundaries we can judge. We are not made live and strife to uphold these rules. This is the first step to bureaucracy and turning over your free will.
 
Ted said:
But this is not only with legalized drugs! Any abuse of any substance, body, emotion, you name it infringes on the happiness and freedom of some sort. I agree that it is wrong to abuse drugs or alcohol, but that is not the only thing wrong.

Exactly. Our own body produces substances our brains feed on that can be classified as drugs.
 
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