Israel , America or palestine is terriost ?
BritinBritain
Per Ardua Ad Astra
The shooter was Taliban not Palestinian.
And today India hanged ajmal kasab lone surviving "paki" a##### who attacked Mumbai in 2008 killing 166 people and injuring hundreds.
So calling others terrorist is bad manners.... :biggun:
You forget to tell that terrorists often mingle with the farmers in order to get close to the fence. When he gets killed it was a civilian when he succeeds in his assignment he is a Jihadist hero.
Here's a video of your "farmers"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cKgzw98M3vU
they plant bombs not crops.
this was a Palestinian: Shaar HaNegev school bus attack, but that's not the only one: Attacks on buses by Palestinian militant groups
Read the Geneva conventions.
a rocket fired at a civilian town is a war crime.
a rocket fired at a military target (Hamas commander) is legitimate, even if some civilians died too.
cant you stop with all the "they are occupiers they must leave" b******t?
how exactly are hamas attacks legitimates? please tell me.
you are blinded by hate, something common here to alot of people
senojekips
Active member
Why??.... because you realise that he is completely right and you are wrong, but too stupid and afraid of losing face to admit it?
Hamas is the legitimately elected government of the people, and as such they are required to do as the people who elected them demand. If the Israelis weren't such Nazis, stealing their land beating, harassing and murdering their people the Palestinians would no doubt have a government more suited to peace.
MontyB
All-Blacks Supporter
Hmm but doesn't Israel have mandatory military service for both males and females which would make towns a legitimate target even if some civilians get killed as well.
that is completely wrong and idiotic
senojekips
Active member
You have stepped on your own tongue again.
After any atrocity, the IDF always states that they kill disproportionately more Palestinian civilians, because fighters live among them, so what's the difference with IDF personnel living in Israeli towns and cities?
It seems that, as usual, you have one rule for everyone else, and another for yourself.
Last edited:
Again you are talking BS. Hamas was the legitimately elected government until March 2007 when a national unity government took over. In June 2007 they expelled or killed Fatah members and took control of Gaza. Their police is Hamas police and not under the control of the PA.
If the Israelis would have been nazis, stealing land, beating, harassing and murdering Palestinians then there wouldn't be a West Bank nor Gaza. Israel only defends itself as they did from in the beginning.
your arguments are getting a little old.
No, because they don't fight from civilian towns and a soldier on leave is not a high value target. A munition depot inside an apartment is. A HQ near or in a Hospital is. A playground used as a rocket launching site is. Israel does not do any of that. Your argument falls short.
You don't understand. It is not about soldiers living in a town, it's about legitimate targets. A civilian town can never be a legitimate target. Israel does not (as Hamas) target civilian towns. They target military HQ, rocket launching sites, munition depots (underground, in apartments). Your argument falls short.
no they dont, where did you find this ridiculous information? in this operation and in every one before, more terrorists were killed than civilians. i swear you are writing everything you think without even checking if its true... most IDF combat soldiers is at their base or on the border, not in their houses. the only soldiers who are in their houses and in civilian territory are jobniks (basicly everyone who isnt usefull and couldnt get any where alse). israeli air force is doing everything he can to successfully destroy the target and minimal the casualties. if the civilians on the area are so stupid they didnt listen to the warnings such as phone calls, flyers and non-lethal warnings (big loud noise) than its their fault or Hamas is holding them as human shields. you cant just write something and claim its a fact. this discussion is pointless, please try to come to this arguements with an open mind and not so hatefull, because if you dont this wont go anywhere and will just repeat itself over and over again.
take care
MontyB
All-Blacks Supporter
Ok well Hamas doesn't target civilian towns they target Israeli reservist domiciles.
Seriously you are now dancing on a knife edge, you can use different terminology and twist and turn all you like but if Hamas are valid targets even in civilian complexes then so are Israeli soldiers.
Basically it is hardly the fault of Hamas that Israels troops live among civilians (man it is easy to twist a story, how are you liking the frustration of someone using your own tactics?)
As they say "What is good for the goose is good for the gander".
Last edited:
BritinBritain
Per Ardua Ad Astra
I really don't know why you bother with these numbnuts, they believe their own b******te propaganda, all you are doing is wasting your time.
You are nitpicking and you know it. But I will give an answer and disprove your "logic".
Suppose Hamas is firing at an Israeli reservist domicile and have "credible" information he's home. They quickly set up a Qassam rocket launcher and shoot at the target. But here comes the problem, the CEP of the Qassam rocket is 100 meter at 7 km (and more at its max range of 12km). This means that a civilian area the size of 4 soccer fields is in danger. In other words, several blocks. (all rockets used by Hamas have a terrible CEP an cannot be used to knock out a military target in a civilian neighbourhood)
This is in violation of the Geneva Conventions Article 51 4B : Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited. Indiscriminate attacks are: those which employ a method or means of combat which cannot be directed at a specific military objective.
So, you cannot claim that you are directing a specific military object in a civilian town if your CEP is 100 meters. The CEP of the Israeli bombs used in Gaza is 5-8 meters, so they can claim they are directing at a specific military target.
No he is not, he's learning something, or at least he has the chance to.
israel, rome, spain, america, europe... is there a land they dont want?