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November 16th, 2010  
LeMask
 
It can function as a trustworthy scientific data you know...

If enough people believe that, then, they can make it a reality.

A bit like Israel... It took a few strong believers to make it happen. Dont underestimate religion my friend, the human will is the most powerful thing on earth.
November 17th, 2010  
Seehund
 
This is not trustworthy scientific data, it is drunken nonsense. It's history and religion forgery. And Micha is absolutely right when she writes:

Religion is open to a person’s/religious teacher’s interpretation and herein, lays the danger. If you have a fanatical teacher, he will impart their fanatical views to their followers.

Joseph Goebbels said: If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

You should not just swallow the food you get served. Taste it first - it could be poisoned.
November 17th, 2010  
Gregor1
 

Topic: Fasco


There are only two ways to go: Neither you do the will of god, nor you do the will of satan. Neither you are for Jesus Christ nor you are for the Antichrist. And there is no way between. I donīt know if Jesus is a Fascist or a Christdemocrat (greetings to CDU). But what I know is that democracies wonīt stand for a long time. Or does the US government follow any plan to create a "United States of The World"? No, they donīt. If I was a US soldier I wouldnīt risk anything for this rediculus system that is called democracy. First they lean back and wait what happens. For example the rise of Hitler. Then, years later they find out that totalitarian systems are a threat. And then another few years later they complain why they have to send so many soldiers to free Europe. Democracy is the worst case scenery. If the USA would have tried to create a United States of the World since the begining of the 20th century, then the world would have been united and the two world wars would never have happened.
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November 17th, 2010  
Yin717
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor1
There are only two ways to go: Neither you do the will of god, nor you do the will of satan. Neither you are for Jesus Christ nor you are for the Antichrist. And there is no way between. I donīt know if Jesus is a Fascist or a Christdemocrat (greetings to CDU). But what I know is that democracies wonīt stand for a long time. Or does the US government follow any plan to create a "United States of The World"? No, they donīt. If I was a US soldier I wouldnīt risk anything for this rediculus system that is called democracy. First they lean back and wait what happens. For example the rise of Hitler. Then, years later they find out that totalitarian systems are a threat. And then another few years later they complain why they have to send so many soldiers to free Europe. Democracy is the worst case scenery. If the USA would have tried to create a United States of the World since the begining of the 20th century, then the world would have been united and the two world wars would never have happened.
Am I mistaken or is the US not the only democratic country in the world? Because yes, America did sir back and let Hitler do what he wanted but sure as hell Britain and France didn't during the second world war. And you mention that a democratic country can't unite the world under 1 country or whatever. May I remind you that the country to have the biggest empire the world has seen was Britain under a democratic system. Hitler got no where near to what Britain did! In fact, it was a pretty poor job because democratic countries, like Britain, stood up for what they believed. I've never really liked the American response to the First and Second World Wars however it must be said that after the Second World War the Americans were eager to fight off totalitarian countries (communist basically) much quicker than any other country was. Mainly because every other country was bankrupt after the Second World War. The point is, democracy has fought many wars and has clearly been very successful at it because it's been around far longer than totalitarian ones (excluding of course monarch's).
November 17th, 2010  
Micha
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor1
There are only two ways to go: Neither you do the will of god, nor you do the will of satan. Neither you are for Jesus Christ nor you are for the Antichrist. And there is no way between.
Religious extremism or fundamentalism is as much religious totalitarianism. Not only do people look to the Holy Scriptures foundation to find a guideline for their lives, the foundation must also enclose everything and give the total answer to everything. Religion is no longer just an ethical and philosophical base, a personal faith which sets guidelines for the general behavior; it is also used to provide conclusive answers, not open for discussion, in any specific situation. The individual views and reflections are gone, and gone are the interests of fellow human beings of humanity's sake. - If it has ever been there.

Your religion is totalitarianism; it requires complete obedience to the figurehead, even to the point of outlawing certain thoughts. It utilizes a pervasive surveillance system to ensure obedience--God is always watching, always judging. It demands loyalty to the leader as the supreme in morality, over and above all other moral dictates. I argue that all forms of totalitarianism are morally wrong, including religion.

Totalitarianism supersedes all moral constraints with a duty to the leader, whether that leader be God. The Bible is full of atrocities (genocide, slavery, infanticide, etc.) performed out of loyalty to a totalitarian God, and also full of punishments for those who dare revolt against the regime. Loving Jesus himself brought about the ultimate totalitarian notion of eternal punishment for thought crime--you must believe or you will burn in everlasting fire.

I condemn totalitarianism in all its forms. Be it service to the Fuhrer or to a supposed God via his prophets, itīs evil and an affront to your human dignity.

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Originally Posted by Gregor1
I donīt know if Jesus is a Fascist or a Christdemocrat (greetings to CDU). But what I know is that democracies wonīt stand for a long time. Or does the US government follow any plan to create a "United States of The World"? No, they donīt. If I was a US soldier I wouldnīt risk anything for this rediculus system that is called democracy. First they lean back and wait what happens. For example the rise of Hitler. Then, years later they find out that totalitarian systems are a threat. And then another few years later they complain why they have to send so many soldiers to free Europe. Democracy is the worst case scenery. If the USA would have tried to create a United States of the World since the begining of the 20th century, then the world would have been united and the two world wars would never have happened.
This is so ridiculous that it is not worth answering

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Originally Posted by Yin717
Am I mistaken or is the US not the only democratic country in the world?
This is beyond me. What do you mean?
November 18th, 2010  
seventrumps
 
 
And the band played on...and on...

I Find it not only amazing, but completely heartwrenching that so many "intelligent" men and women are so out of touch with reality as to take the same old time tested (and Failed) positions against God's word as have many of the "great minds" of the past. I say great, becasue they were either great in their own minds or this blind world was fooled into thinking they were Great.

if you do not see the rise of Germany and the Power it's elites hold over the direction of the E.U. (even though some of you are now SUBJECTS of it), then any attempts to open your eyes are clearly a waste of time.
I wish you luck while you struggle under the Newly designed Jackboots of the "lisbon treaty".

oh, by the way... take a look at these pictures and then ask your "enlightened" selves why the Tower of babel and why the woman riding a Beast? were chosen as symbols of "Europa"??
I'm sure most of you are too smart to bother even considering the possability of any crazy "religious" meaning behind these things, but just LOOK AT THE PICTURES! and ask yourselves .. WHY?

http://www2.ministries-online.org/bi...aglobgov3.html

Blessings
November 18th, 2010  
Micha
 
 
@Seventrumps

What surprised me is that you, a presumably intelligent person did not discover that you've been cheated and deceived.

Christ is not who he pretends to be - he is really the Antichrist. Think about it. There is plenty of evidence.

Let’s compare Antichrist with what the Scriptures say of Christ and Antichrist.

Antichrist will appear suddenly.
Christ will appear suddenly.

Antichrist himself, or his chief cohort, the False Prophet, will be a Jew
Jesus is a Jew

Antichrist will claim that he is the Messiah of Israel
Jesus will exercise his appointed office of Messiah.

Antichrist will perform miracles.
Christ will perform miracles

Antichrist will reside in Jerusalem.
Jesus will rule from Jerusalem

Antichrist will rebuild the Temple at Jerusalem and be involved with the service therein.
Jesus will rebuild the Temple at Jerusalem and be involved with the service therein.

Antichrist will form a covenant with the Jews.
Jesus will be a great leader and will re-introduce the Jews into God's true everlasting covenant

Antichrist's rule will commence with a proclamation and those who refuse to submit to it will be crushed.
Christ's rule will commence with a proclamation and those who refuse to submit to it will be crushed.

Can it be shown that Jesus is in fact the Antichrist? Let's take the number 9...Why the number 9 you may ask? Well, God's perfect number is 7. If you add the number 3, representing the Trinity, you get 10. Now, take away 1 part of the Trinity, Jesus, and you have 9. You have to take out Jesus, because being the Antichrist, he's not really part of the Trinity. So, 9 is our number. That number came about through scientific means, so it can't be disputed.

Now, assign the multiples of 9 to each letter of the English alphabet where A=9, B=18, C=27, and so on. I have done it for you below.

A=9 B=18 C=27 D=36 E=45 F=54 G=63 H=72 I=81 J=90 K=99 L=108 M=117 N=126 O=135 P=144 Q=153 R= 162 S=171 T=180 U=189 V=198 W=207 X=216 Y=225 Z=234

If you take the name JESUS and add up the numbers that correspond to each letter in his name you will get...
(J)90+(E)45+(S)171+(U)189+(S)171=666

Undeniable evidence that Jesus, the son of God, is in fact the Antichrist. But, to be more scientific, let's repeat the experiment with another name, MESSIAH. Jesus is said to be the Messiah.
(M)117+(E)45+(S)171+(S)171+(I)81+(A)9+(H)72=666

Still don't consider that enough evidence? Let's use the word GOSPEL; the Good News, the story of Jesus.
(G)63+(O)135+(S)171+(P)144+(E)45+(L)108=666

To be absolutely sure, so there is no doubt, let's use Jesus' Hebrew name Y'SHUA.
(Y)225+(S)171+(H)72+(U)189+(A)9=666

More? How about the symbol of the Christian faith? CROSS
(C)27+(R)162+(O)135+(S)171+(S)171=666

Confirming Jesus to be the Antichrist. For over 2,000 years, Christians have been duped into worshipping the son of Satan. Coincidence or truth?. How can you be sure?

The Devil's greatest achievement of our time is that he has convinced us that he does not exist anymore. That’s why he can do what he wants and who knows what he wants!

Do I believe in it? I think that the theory is as credible as your conspiracy theory about Germany.But maybe just maybe ..! The devil is a cunning identity, maybe it is him who will come to us as the messiah!
November 18th, 2010  
Atasas
 
@ Seventrumps
Have you dared ever to go to Germany and spend a day?
My verdict "paranoia from no knowledge"... I've been there, loved most of the things (people/society/culture/and no sign of hidden fascism), all was good, but two sets of lawyers. Those are crocks everywhere anw.
November 18th, 2010  
Seehund
 
@Atasas
I do not think you can change his view of Germany if he visits the country. It's a bit like looking at a Swiss Cheese, some see only cheese others see only holes and a few see the whole cheese.

@Micha
My dear girl - you have a very complex brain
November 18th, 2010  
Yin717
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micha
This is beyond me. What do you mean?
Basically he was criticising the US's actions and presuming that it was the only democratic country in the world...or all democratic countries are like it. I was just pointing out this wasn't the case.