Why do we do what we do?




 
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December 3rd, 2004  
Damien435
 
 

Topic: Why do we do what we do?


This is to those who have joined, are in, or have served in their nations military.

Why is it that civilians seem so ungrateful for what we do? Ever since I joined the Army the two questions I am asked most commonly are (1) Why would you throw your life away by joining the military? and (2) You do know you are going to die right?

Why the h*** would someone ask a question like that? Is it only American's who are that ungrateful or is it a worldwide problem or is it just the people in my area who are like that?

We are risking our lives so they can live comfortable, happy lives without having to fear for their safety, so they can work 40 hours a week and then enjoy their weekends, go on a picnic with their family without having to fear about a terrorist in the car next to them suddenly blowing himself up and taking them with him. Do they not realise that it is the select few, men and women like those who are members of this forum, making the sacrifices for the majority.

I oppose almost all forms of socialism and communism, but I do believe that everyone should pull their own weight, contribute to society and to the greater good of God and Country. One of my friends who gives me the most guff has no clue what he is gonna do after graduation in six months. He may or may not go to college, he is smart enough, but I think he has gotten to used to mooching off his parents, of as he says it, "Cashing in on the $6,000 they owe me from when I had a job." He only had a job for one month, not near long enough to earn that much money, and they were the one's who raised him, that is expensive. He thinks nothing of taking $300 from his parents, I do not even like accepting $5 from my mom to go to Subway.

I am pro-draft, I feel that military service can teach people a lot, not to mention the fact that everyone could use a good *ss kicking every now and then to remind them that they are not the center of the universe.

So, what do you guys think? Or is this not an issue for you? Do you come from areas where people in the military are given their due respect? If so then tell me where you live, I may just move there.
December 3rd, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien435
This is to those who have joined, are in, or have served in their nations military.
Whoops, sorry.

Nevermind this post...
December 3rd, 2004  
battery
 



I'm not joining for those purposes. I'm there to go to war/die honorably... Yeah, I know, it probaly won't happen though
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December 3rd, 2004  
Grimnar
 
 
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Originally Posted by battery
I'm not joining for those purposes. I'm there to go to war/die honorably... Yeah, I know, it probaly won't happen though
Do you want to die?
I think you're joining for the wrong reasons.
December 3rd, 2004  
egoz
 
I was asked the same question by my girlfriend, and an ex-gf, and a few of my friends. For some reason they think that just because you join you want to die or something like that. I told them it has more to do with loving my country and wanting to protect our ideals and way of life. I feel like I owe those veterans before me something also. They've done so much, and I only hope that while serving I could compare to what they've done already. The possibility of death is always there, but that isn't exactly a top concern on my list of things to worry about while serving. I'm more concerned about doing my job correctly to prevent someone back home from getting killed, or someone out in the field from getting killed.
December 3rd, 2004  
EuroSpike
 

Topic: Re: Why do we do what we do?


"Why is it that civilians seem so ungrateful for what we do? Ever since I joined the Army the two questions I am asked most commonly are (1) Why would you throw your life away by joining the military? and (2) You do know you are going to die right?"

It is just only a matter of fashion. Usually most of people to disagree are communists or somekind world saver hippies. Common people took it just positive and when travelling in late evening trains wearing military clothes, always got some company and few beers offered, and stories about being military in 60s, 70s or 80s 8)

"I oppose almost all forms of socialism and communism"

So do i. Just can't accept them. Only good thing coming from somekind socialism is free education for all. That causes only good things like literacy 100%, less dumb people, free high quality university studies and right to study as long as ever wants to. No hurry to anywhere 8)
December 3rd, 2004  
egoz
 
I wouldn't say that everyone who opposes the military are hippies. Sometimes they are just misinformed about the job of many of the soldiers. They see it as throwing your life away because they don't understand what the military can give an individual, and not just materialisitcally. Not to mention some of those people concerned over you dying could very well care about you and wouldn't want you dead.

I have yet to run into a stranger that has come straight out and tell me that joining the military is a death wish and a waste of life. I'd take that as rude, especially since they didn't know anything about me.
December 3rd, 2004  
EuroSpike
 
"They see it as throwing your life away because they don't understand what the military can give an individual, and not just materialisitcally."

That is top typical because army pays less than civil companies. If working in military or having a career. That, because military life isn't as comfortable as civilian life. I prefer its much easier to just live and do what ever wants to.

"I have yet to run into a stranger that has come straight out and tell me that joining the military is a death wish and a waste of life. I'd take that as rude, especially since they didn't know anything about me."

Here i have never encountered such like that. Only encouragement and respect. Service abroad is also a benefit when seeking a job. Civil service usually only causes problems to get employed. No one tolerates a lazy hippie in work 8)
December 3rd, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Guys, don't expect your work to be appriciated.
December 6th, 2004  
AFSteliga
 
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Guys, don't expect your work to be appriciated.
True enough. A lot of the people here in Saint-Jean don't appreciate the CF. Plus, a lot of my friends asked me why I joined. All I said was that I wanted to serve my country. There were several other questions after that, such as: 'Why not serve in some other way?' and whatnot. I couldn't really explain why when they asked that one.

It's unfortunate how some civilians view the Military, but there's really nothing that we can do aside from either take it, or try to explain what we do. However, since a lot of people are very closed-minded, the latter choice proves very difficult.