What do you think-




 
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October 6th, 2004  
battery
 

Topic: What do you think-


What do you think would happen if the U.S. decided to leave all foreign nations? I'm quite sick of this "Americans are meddlers" attitude. Do you think the world would be a better place without U.S. interfearing? What kind of consequences would happen? Could we maintain a strong lead in world affairs from the comfort of our own land?
October 6th, 2004  
whosewar2000
 

Topic: Re: What do you think-


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Originally Posted by battery
What do you think would happen if the U.S. decided to leave all foreign nations? I'm quite sick of this "Americans are meddlers" attitude. Do you think the world would be a better place without U.S. interfearing? What kind of consequences would happen? Could we maintain a strong lead in world affairs from the comfort of our own land?
without US, most places in the world will become nightmare, including india vs pak, China vs Tw
not even mentioning middle east

US foreigen policy WAS basically correct and did as "great power means great responsiblity" and also did as "US consume 90% of the fortune in the world"

BUT, after 911, US foreign policy has become complete disaster to the world, WORLD Is much better without current US unless it Mod edit: Watch yourself, chief.
October 6th, 2004  
Trevor
 
THis thread is gonna go down hill from here. I think the U.S. has done a lot of good for the world, like Samolia, Afghanistan, and yes, IRAQ! There have been some times, where they have poked there nose in where they don't belong as well.
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October 6th, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
sorry,I need to correct my previous post:

not after 911, instead, before 911, it happened already. From the moment Bush stole the presidency, from the moment he withdraw the environment treaty signed in Tokyo........The world was just stunned by that.
October 6th, 2004  
battery
 
Funny how whosewar either inflates or kills a topic...
October 6th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Being isolationist never works, last time we tried that the cross went crooked in the west and the sun raised in the east.
October 6th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
You are correct isolationism does not work. That said I'm all for withdrawing from peacekeeping missions where our troops die for ungrateful nations and are decried by the "citizens" at home.
For about a year. Then lets see if the rest of the world wants us to "meddle".
October 6th, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
USA shall NOT and can NOT be isolationism

1) USA canNOT be isolationism: USA benefit for himself is world-wide, overall, USA get the cheapest resources from the world and export most expensive stuff to the world, USA dominant world affairs thus can make sure to maximize its own benefit, USA make rules in 99% of the all world-wide organizations, that is matter of the fact. It comes from the power of USA and feed back to maintain power of USA.

2) USA shall not be isolationism: USA use more than 70% of the energy resources and share more than 90% of the fortune of the world, it is USA nature-born responsibility to feed back to the world, including increase the effinicy of energy usage, including push democracy to the world (BUT becareful, do it by examples, not by WAR), including protecting earth from pollution.

I am an internationlism person, after British killed people and burned houses around the world in 19th centry, American, have involved in a much higher advanced way to globalize this world. In fact, after cold war, it was perfect chance for US to push human untilize UN to setup "world government" by setting up examples such as encouraging free market, encourage human right....etc. by doing it in a positve way. Yeah, UN is not perfect, but it is making huge prograss in many aspects

Unfortunately, the "preemptive" started by Bush just bury the possibility at all, it turns the world around and make it run on the "back-way" track, all the way back to 19th century when the rule was: who get bigger muscle, who win.

When next super power comes on the way, no chance to setup this "global government" anymore. next head-to-head cold war or warm war is just certain.
October 6th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Hey Whosewar.
Ya can't have it both ways buddy. Pick a side any side but pick one, and get off the fence.
October 6th, 2004  
Courtenay
 
Whoeswar

Before I jump on your case for your terrible terrible usage of words, are you a native English speaker? If not, I'll leave it alone. If you are, please, learn to speak properly.

Secondly, we cannot be involved in the world, and world issues, and never be involved in war. 03USMC told you to get off the fence....I don't see you on the fence as much as your not understanding, in the least, the intricacies of world affairs.

I did read your post about the USA "meddling". If we stopped meddling, as you put it, at this time, the worlds economic structure would come crashing in. It's all to intertwined for there to ever be the possibility of our be isolationists.

On the subject of isolationism, there is a part of me that would love to see our take the stance of worrying about us, screw the rest of them. Especially when I have to listen to the anti-American rhetoric. So much of the world sucks at us like leeches, then wants to complain about us and everything we are. Sort of like living in a dysfunctional family!