What do you think- - Page 2




 
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October 6th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
Just be honest, USA is both a good guy and a bad guy like all guys or countries are like. A coin has always 2 sides.
October 6th, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
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Originally Posted by Courtenay
Whoeswar

Before I jump on your case for your terrible terrible usage of words, are you a native English speaker? If not, I'll leave it alone. If you are, please, learn to speak properly.

Secondly, we cannot be involved in the world, and world issues, and never be involved in war. 03USMC told you to get off the fence....I don't see you on the fence as much as your not understanding, in the least, the intricacies of world affairs.

I did read your post about the USA "meddling". If we stopped meddling, as you put it, at this time, the worlds economic structure would come crashing in. It's all to intertwined for there to ever be the possibility of our be isolationists.

On the subject of isolationism, there is a part of me that would love to see our take the stance of worrying about us, screw the rest of them. Especially when I have to listen to the anti-American rhetoric. So much of the world sucks at us like leeches, then wants to complain about us and everything we are. Sort of like living in a dysfunctional family!
read my previous post, you will understand me better.
October 6th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
No one really wanted to sign that treaty. They just knew the Americans wouldn't sign it anyway so everyone signed it, knowing it'd fail when it came to America's signing turn so America could get the blame for it.
Diplomatic brilliance really.
And he never stole the presidency. You know that the states themselves have the power to vote so when the popular vote is very close, these state votes start to have a big significance. Usually when the popular vote is straight forward, it doesn't really have an effect.

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Originally Posted by whosewar2000
sorry,I need to correct my previous post:

not after 911, instead, before 911, it happened already. From the moment Bush stole the presidency, from the moment he withdraw the environment treaty signed in Tokyo........The world was just stunned by that.

by the way, no one can be isolationist.
the most secluded country tried isolationism and at its best could only pretend it.
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October 6th, 2004  
Shadowalker
 
 
The problem with america withdrawing into itself would be felt world wide, the militar being in europe and asia has created jobs around the military bases, and if american companies withdrew then every country in the world would feel the effects (yes whosewar even china!!), The problem i have with american foreign policy is that it is very self-centred and is unfeeling of other countries, it uses its military and economic strength to push countries into actions that benefits itself (thats my opinion, feel free to agree and disagree with it!)
October 6th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
It's America's way of doing things. Don't really blame them, they do it to each other like crazy.
It's like a foreigner going to Germany and mistaking that he's surrounded by millions of racists. Don't take it personally, they're just like that to each other too!
It's a two way thing really. Americans ignore the local cultural approach to doing business and the local element are also ignorant about American culture in doing business. So they work against each other.

So yes I do agree with you. But I elaborated on it.
October 6th, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
It's America's way of doing things. Don't really blame them, they do it to each other like crazy.
There are lots knowledgable and friendly American over there, donot think your thought of "doing business" can represent every American.

I have lots American friends showing open-mind and responsibility for the world.
The more you know, the more you feel you are igorant, the more you feel humble and the more you feel responsible for the world from your action. (I am not saying you)
October 6th, 2004  
Shadowalker
 
 
Yeah there are lots of americans who are very friendly. My beliefs are based on the acts of a few and it is very unfair for me to put all americans under the same roof. But the few are also the most powerful and the most influential making it look epescially, considering american foreign policies during the iraq war that americans are like that in general. It is only america politics abroad and those people who create/implement it that i have a problem with not american people generally.

EDIT: it might read a little bit better now
October 6th, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowalker
Yeah there are lots of americans who are very friendly, my beliefs are based on the acts of a few and im it is very unfair for me to put all americans under the same roof, but the few are also the most powerful and the most influential making it look epescially considering american foreign policies during the iraq war that americans are like that in general, but it is only america politics abroad and those people who create/implement it that i have a problem with not american people generally.
that is really long sentence, I almost run out of my air
October 6th, 2004  
Shadowalker
 
 
i really must find my full stop button! now where did it go.....?
October 6th, 2004  
Stafford911
 
 
I say **** em. If they want to ***** about how bad it is and ask for our help then complain about the manenr in which we help they dont deserve our aid.