The War on Terror - Page 2




 
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October 19th, 2004  
rOk
 
 
Haganah staged attacks on British troops (among others) stationed in what is now Israel.
Better call them insurgents or combatants then hey?

Invented was (in retrospect) a bad word indeed, redefined could be a good one perhaps.

Basically what I was trying to say was that you showed everyone else that you can grab yourself a piece of land with insurgency etc...
You see the connection at what the Palestinians are doing now and what you did before?

Just two statements I feel are necessary for me to point out:
-I'm no Jew hater nor Arab lover
-There's a thin line between terrorism and freedom fight
October 19th, 2004  
Courtenay
 
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Ahem...I think the Israeli "invented" terrorism. Back in the late 40's or early 50's while trying to kick out the Brits from what is now Israel.

The Arabs just picked up the bat and started running.
As always...just my 2 cents, not trying to blame anyone, just trying to point that it always takes two to dance
Well, next time you put in your 2 cents, make sure they are accurate.
Well, that keeps me from having to chime in here.

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KILL THEM, DO NOT TALK WITH THEM!
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Well, that is true for the terrorists them selves. But you must talk with the civilians around and gain their support, or the terror will never stop.
Agreed. All that can be done, must be done to help countries that have been under the rule of those who support terrorism, learn a different way of life. Or there will be three more created for every one that is killed.

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If all top world powers are united in this war, then we can win it, otherwise no hope.

Then how to get the world powers united? Too difficult, since USA is too selfish about its own interests and often damages other's interests.
Own interests? This is almost too ridiculous to answer. But in very simplistic terms, every country MUST look after their own interests first. That is their first an foremost obligation to the people of their nation. If the President of the US said that he was most interested in what would make for instance, India, prosper, than what is best for the US then he wouldn't be much of a leader.


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My solution:

1- Make all efforts to advance the Muslim and Middle Eastern countrys both economcally and Socially.

2-Make sue that govronments that support terror pay for it.

3-Kill any terrorist you can.
Absolutely. You are on the mark there IMO.
October 19th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
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Then how to get the world powers united? Too difficult, since USA is too selfish about its own interests and often damages other's interests.

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October 19th, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
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Originally Posted by rOk
Ahem...I think the Israeli "invented" terrorism. Back in the late 40's or early 50's while trying to kick out the Brits from what is now Israel.

The Arabs just picked up the bat and started running.
As always...just my 2 cents, not trying to blame anyone, just trying to point that it always takes two to dance...
you have got to be kidding me. Here are some historic facts about terrorism

The ancient Greek historian Xenophon (c. 431c. 350 BC) wrote of the effectiveness of psychological warfare against enemy populations.

Roman emperors such as Tiberius (reigned AD 1437) and Caligula (reigned AD 3741) used banishment, expropriation of property, and execution as means to discourage opposition to their rule.

The Spanish Inquisition used arbitrary arrest, torture, and execution to punish what it viewed as religious heresy. The use of terror was openly advocated by Robespierre as a means of encouraging revolutionary virtue during the French Revolution, leading to the period of his political dominance called the Reign of Terror (179394).

After the American Civil War (186165) defiant Southerners formed a terrorist organization called the Ku Klux Klan to intimidate supporters of Reconstruction.

In the latter half of the 19th century, terrorism was adopted by adherents of anarchism in Western Europe, Russia, and the United States. They believed that the best way to effect revolutionary political and social change was to assassinate persons in positions of power.

From 1865 to 1905 a number of kings, presidents, prime ministers, and other government officials were killed by anarchists' guns or bombs.

Here's a BBC article that is pretty good as well
The Changing Faces of Terrorism

I would be very happy if people actually did their homework before posting. Especially when the post is quite controversial.

SGT Doody
October 19th, 2004  
Bratwurst
 
An idea:

International cooperation of secret service directorates, sharing information, linked to adapted and specifically trained SF units with a license to kill, backed by the best intelligence tech that money can buy, controlled by representatives of participating nations, acting on a charta.
October 19th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Well, terrorism really can't be stopped. It's just apart of warfare, another tactic to get your goal. (hmm, except for say most of the terrorist in Israel, they're just stupid and pointless)

The real fight is with Islamic extremism, and to combat that, you'd have to take away the fuel.....

1: Israel/Palestine conflict must be resolved, or hate will continue for eons.

2: Stop the spread of fundamentalist Islam. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are KEY. But their popluations are so large, I don't know how realistic it is to stop it...

3: Improve living conditions, though like the above, given the populations...

4: And of course, nail corrupt regimes like Iraq, Iran, etc.. (invasion isn't the only way..)

Worst thing that could happen is if Islamic extremism rules Saudi Arabia or Pakistan...

or both...
October 19th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
Well, the facts are cruel, even USA with that much power can not root out terrorism, can't even catch Bin Laden, and without full cooperation with all big powers, you can forget it, winning the war, well you can keep trying, but reality is ironic, the Axis of Evils are still happily progressing although with one Iraq less.

Talk is cheap, like Koreans on web saying their troops will go to Iraq to revenge the beheading of Korean man, but nothing happened, after 3000 troops there.

Huge difference btw Reality and Wish.
October 19th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Nice prediction.....

And yes talk is cheap, and I hear China talking a lot.
October 19th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
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Nice prediction.....

And yes talk is cheap, and I hear China talking a lot.
China talk about what? get you point straight.
October 19th, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 
Tiawan
Back on topic. Like I've said before I don't think terrorism can ever be beaten, just subdued.