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June 1st, 2004  
bush musketeer
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureRANGER
Well, not unless you count WWII, which sorta protected the whole world from complete and utter destruction and dehumanization.
us definatly helped but they weren't the decidng factor,( plus they were late 4 the war)

the fighting in russia was a bigger deciding fator.

cheers
June 1st, 2004  
Pollux
 
lol
you think russia and britain would have won the war without the us?
muahaha.....
you think that the russian forces and the few british soldiers had a chance without the western front, and the invasion of southern europe?
no way
June 1st, 2004  
bush musketeer
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pollux
lol
you think russia and britain would have won the war without the us?
muahaha.....
you think that the russian forces and the few british soldiers had a chance without the western front, and the invasion of southern europe?
no way
there was russia, brits, aussies, nzs, canadians, indans, gurkas, the french resistance fighters, polish free forces, ,greeks partisans, and others eg chinese.

and you missed my point that being that the fighting in russia was a bigger factor in the war then the us joining. when hitler invaded russia he was doing somthing that was beyond the german armys capabilities, fighting russians in russia was too hard to do with the forces he had. and add the fact that the russians were fighting for survival of the homeland just made them more deterimined to win.

and of course there had to b a western front and invasion of southern europe, the only way u get the land back is to put infantry on the ground in europe with all the suporting eqip, eg tanks artillery,planes and the rest.


and yes i do think the allies would of won without the U.S even if it took 50 years of guerilla fighting, with the things hitler was doing in europe and what the japs were doing in the pacific. LOSING WAS NOT AN OPTION

cheers
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June 1st, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
Your right there,i dont wanna be a show off,but if there was no Yugoslav partizans germans would get to russia before winter,and then they would probably win the war.
June 1st, 2004  
Pollux
 
there were 27 german divisions stationedon the west coast of france so save the western front.
what do you think would have happened to the russian army if those divisions would have been used to reinforce the eastern front?
and if no US planes would have bombed the german facilities?
Germany would have won the war in russia, no matter how many partisans would have been there. But the german syntetic fuel industrie was bombed by us planes and so the 6. army had to move south to the russian oil fields.
Russias air force was comletely antique and no threat for the modern up to date planes. if the wouldnt hav been supported by the us they had no chance against the luftwaffe.
June 1st, 2004  
1217
 
I'd say the defeat of Hitler was a team-effort. I donít think any one nation could have defeated Hitler by themselves back then. At least it would have taken a lot longer.
June 1st, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
great history and traditions,that are brits
June 1st, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
this is not a "Why did hitler loose" topic.
June 2nd, 2004  
bush musketeer
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pollux
there were 27 german divisions stationedon the west coast of france so save the western front.
what do you think would have happened to the russian army if those divisions would have been used to reinforce the eastern front?
and if no US planes would have bombed the german facilities?
Germany would have won the war in russia, no matter how many partisans would have been there. But the german syntetic fuel industrie was bombed by us planes and so the 6. army had to move south to the russian oil fields.
Russias air force was comletely antique and no threat for the modern up to date planes. if the wouldnt hav been supported by the us they had no chance against the luftwaffe.
if the 27 divs had reinforced, i think the only difference would of been a lot more dead russian's and germans and others.
what about all the brit, canadian, aus and other airforces who tended to have a better strike rate then the us in regards as to hitting ther targets?

just be cause the russian af wasn't as modern as germanys don't mean they were not a threat, the t34 tanks were not as finely finshed as german tanks but the proved to be pretty bloody effective
cheers
June 2nd, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
Final warning, get back on topic or I'm going to tear through here like Sherman on vacation in Atlanta.