U.S. would commit huge force to thwart N. Korean offensive - Page 5




 
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Boots
 
February 11th, 2005  
Jim Goose
 
Thanks,

but to clarify my position, I don't believe North Korea would make a stupid move in an attempt to "unite" the 2 Koreas. And if they did, there's no doubt a "regime change" would occur in Pyongang shortly after.

The invasion of the South that occured in the 50s was a different scenario, the North had some chance for victory due to Soviet backing and at that time, somewhat decent technology until the US got involved to stop communism.

If the N. Korea invaded south again, it would be stopped pretty fast by the US' domination of the skies, waters, and land. It would be suicide.

I'm not for war, I'm also not for economic sanctions and intimidation. I think every country has the responsibility to be able to defend its people, I also believe the gov't in each country should feed its people too, something I hope N. Korea can do now that they're a nuclear power and can assure defense of their nation, hopefully they'll become less paranoid now and hopefully the US will just gradually accept that.
February 11th, 2005  
Big_Z
 
 
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Originally Posted by Jim Goose
Thanks,

but to clarify my position, I don't believe North Korea would make a stupid move in an attempt to "unite" the 2 Koreas. And if they did, there's no doubt a "regime change" would occur in Pyongang shortly after.

The invasion of the South that occured in the 50s was a different scenario, the North had some chance for victory due to Soviet backing and at that time, somewhat decent technology until the US got involved to stop communism.

If the N. Korea invaded south again, it would be stopped pretty fast by the US' domination of the skies, waters, and land. It would be suicide.

I'm not for war, I'm also not for economic sanctions and intimidation. I think every country has the responsibility to be able to defend its people, I also believe the gov't in each country should feed its people too, something I hope N. Korea can do now that they're a nuclear power and can assure defense of their nation, hopefully they'll become less paranoid now and hopefully the US will just gradually accept that.

Only time will tell... oh yeah, I guess one thing Americans can be thankful for is that N. Korea is not a muslim country :P Then it'd be interesting...
You look at the world with a childs optimism and ignorance.
February 11th, 2005  
Jim Goose
 
Or, I look at the world as not an American :P
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February 11th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
nukes are meant as an offensive weapon, but in the nature of politics it is used as a threat towards peace

thats why china produced nuclear weapons during 62', when the americans threatened nukes and soviet union too

since then the nuclear threats had dimished

i think nk is doing the same thing, so with out the constant threat of american invasion they can concentrate on economy ( ok, i know thats kinda contridicted since they had 50 years to do so)
February 11th, 2005  
gingerbeard
 
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us entering the war, yes, possiblily the united kingdom as well, but the rest of europe, NO.

i dont think the rest of europe gives a dam about korea nowadays, this will be similar to teh politcal stance, diplomatics of situation in iraq

the big mystery is if chinas willing to sent troops or not
i think europe nowadays would want better relationship with china because they see china is a great opputunity for business. and europe know in the future would be us and china.

in fact, it seems europe (except uk) favour china more than us, lifting the embargo, veto on us actions, and not taking "orders" from the us anymore in restricting relationship with china.
Lifting an embargo doesent mean they favor China more..... They simply see China as a tool to make them more money, nothing else.
well it does, there willl be more competition therefore russia will lower the prices of their's. alos france have always sold advance weapons to other countries like argentina. of course they are trying to make money but this process will benefit china itself.
February 12th, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
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Or, I look at the world as not an American :P
well put
February 12th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
yup, americans are too warlike, well, thats kinda stereotypical cuz most americans i know arent that military-oriented

canadians view the world differently eh?
February 12th, 2005  
Regisvo
 
 
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i think europe nowadays would want better relationship with china because they see china is a great opputunity for business.
Not merely business. The Europe has great philosopher, especially in France and Germany, such as Jurgen Habermas, Jacques Derrida. EU and China have deep relationship of mind also. If people knew what Habermas and Derrida were arguing on, people may understand the relationship from another side.
February 12th, 2005  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
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yup, americans are too warlike, well, thats kinda stereotypical cuz most americans i know arent that military-oriented

canadians view the world differently eh?
That poster was putting much faith in the North Korean government to feed it's people and live properous without any evil intentions. Not to mention war is a inevitable fact of life, to deny it is to live in ignorance. Big_Z wasn't being "warlike"

North Koreas only legacy is the korean war, a brutally oppressive government, and one of the largest militaries in the world. Why should we trust them? They've done nothing but cheat on our deals.

If logical pessimism makes me "warlike" then i'll gladly embrace the title.
February 12th, 2005  
mrcool011
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. gingerbeard
i think europe nowadays would want better relationship with china because they see china is a great opputunity for business.
Not merely business. The Europe has great philosopher, especially in France and Germany, such as Jurgen Habermas, Jacques Derrida. EU and China have deep relationship of mind also. If people knew what Habermas and Derrida were arguing on, people may understand the relationship from another side.
i dont know much about this, but ive heard people talking about the EU going to sell weapons to china for money but also so that china will confront america insteasd of europe?