RUSSIA versus EUROPE: who'll win? - Page 4




 
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July 13th, 2004  
Snauhi
 
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Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
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UK ,France and Germany are strong countrys BUT they cant defeat Russia, they dont have enough troops to counquer Russia.

yes EU's economy is better, but techology...(give me proof)

yes they are bigger, but Russia have more tanks..

cant Russia produce weapons in wartime... what did Russia do in WW2 and Russias situation is better now..


Best trained thats really... not sure(give me proof)
Man, if the UK, Germany, France, Italy WANT, they can build a much larger army than russian's, they have the money, manpower, how is it not possible for them to do it?

You mean Russian technology better than EU's? You r kidding yourself?

EU's army not much better trained than Russians? We all know russian army is now in very poor condition, they can't pay the salary to the army officiers and the equips are rusting, we have plenty of reports on this on newspaper and on TV, no need to deny. Pride can not hide the reality.

Russia makes some good weapons, but we all know Russina itself cannot afford it but sell to other countries.

USSR is dead long long time ago, Russina is not a real big power more except those useless nukes.

Germany, UK have 2 of the top 5 tanks in the world, they got the money, they can make as many as possible if they must prepare for war.

FFS U are making ME ANGRY, GIVE ME PROOF

**** CHINA IS dying those money whats u are telling about are just disappearing, one flood and almost 200 people are dead and 1000 people will suffer because lack of food that they are getting from the field, SARS epedimi=lots of people dead, every diseas will kill thousand of chines.
July 13th, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
And I just want to clarigy another thing, this is Europe vs. Russia, not the European Union vs. Russia, France and Britain will be much slower to react when it seems that it is every country for itself. And lanquage barriers will be a bit of a problem, each country will be acting for the most part on their own, they won't have the massive, coordinated attacks the at the Russians will be able to do. Anyways, I ran into some problems with the new post, it will probably be a day or two before I have it posted. Sorry about the delay.
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July 13th, 2004  
Pollux
 
I dont think that language barriers will be a problem. Right now there exist a lot of joint units, like the german french brigade. In the bigger staffs like Eurokorps, the standard language is english, So big attacks can be coordinated. Why should England and France react slower?
They all know that Germany is the the key to europe. Germany has the niggest ground forces in europe, so the other countries know, if they dont support Germany, theyll have no chance.

@snauhi
yeas the soviets won, because germany had strechted its support lines to far. But in this scenario, we started with russia as the agressor. So the europeans fight on their own soil. The sodliers dont die in a countrie far away, and noone knows what for.... they die by defending their country. So no riots, but patriotism. And no too long support lines, every single Leopard that comes out of the facilities is within a few days at the front.....
July 13th, 2004  
Snauhi
 
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Originally Posted by Pollux
I dont think that language barriers will be a problem. Right now there exist a lot of joint units, like the german french brigade. In the bigger staffs like Eurokorps, the standard language is english, So big attacks can be coordinated. Why should England and France react slower?
They all know that Germany is the the key to europe. Germany has the niggest ground forces in europe, so the other countries know, if they dont support Germany, theyll have no chance.

@snauhi
yeas the soviets won, because germany had strechted its support lines to far. But in this scenario, we started with russia as the agressor. So the europeans fight on their own soil. The sodliers dont die in a countrie far away, and noone knows what for.... they die by defending their country. So no riots, but patriotism. And no too long support lines, every single Leopard that comes out of the facilities is within a few days at the front.....
yeah but lets say EU is agressor
July 13th, 2004  
Pollux
 
lol
ok then......
no chance
the german army wasnt created to attack. So we dont have the abilities to bring our forces far into russia, and support them. And France and UK are, more experienced to fight abroad, but, look at the stats. Those few hundred tanks would be vaporized by the russian army, without german help. So i think we could make it until somewhere behind poland, everything else would mean to repeat history
July 13th, 2004  
Snauhi
 
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Originally Posted by Pollux
lol
ok then......
no chance
the german army wasnt created to attack. So we dont have the abilities to bring our forces far into russia, and support them. And France and UK are, more experienced to fight abroad, but, look at the stats. Those few hundred tanks would be vaporized by the russian army, without german help. So i think we could make it until somewhere behind poland, everything else would mean to repeat history
yes but i was arguing with Frog. look at hes first post in this topic
July 13th, 2004  
Doc.S
 
Damien435

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Sorry about the delay.
That is worth waiting for... Yes sir....

Cheers:
Doc.S

July 13th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
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FFS U are making ME ANGRY, GIVE ME PROOF

f**k CHINA IS dying those money whats u are telling about are just disappearing, one flood and almost 200 people are dead and 1000 people will suffer because lack of food that they are getting from the field, SARS epedimi=lots of people dead, every diseas will kill thousand of chines.
You should wake up, rusia is not a big power anymore, no one takes you serious, that makes you angry?

watch your dirty mouth I don't think this forum likes to see those f**k words.

seems you hate Oriental people a lot, you shouldn't, because check this:

Scientists claim that almost half of the Russian population inherited Mongol genes
http://english.pravda.ru/printed.html?news_id=11931
July 13th, 2004  
Doc.S
 
Speaking of sweden well I think someone mention people would rioting and that scenario I donīt have to hard to see. In sweden there are a little group of patriots. They are few but strong in their believes and training to defend this country from a foregin aggressor. But the majority of the people I think would riot or run for there lives, and I donīt think we will see any big fights if we would be attacked. I think our gouvernment would do as Denmark WW2. Save the countrys infrastructure. And then they would declare all patriots that donīt follow their political agenda as terrorists. I canīt see any resistance with our tanks or armed infantry units and airforce more then in the opening when they cover our gouverments retreat to another country to be honest. The sweeds are not as the Finnish people in their hearts and minds, they would put up a good fight initial I beleive. But not the Swedish government. They have always been turncoats and changed opinion under pressure. Hey Im not telling you that it is like this but it is in the history books and this is only a trustworthy scenario.

Cheers:
Doc.S