How Would You Solve the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict?




 
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Boots
 
August 26th, 2011  
benaakatz
 
 

Topic: How Would You Solve the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict?


If it was up to you how would you put it to rest?

genocide is frowned upon as a solution
September 5th, 2011  
MontyB
 
 
Realistically a 2 state solution is the only option however it will only be successful if both states are viable and currently I have not seen a proposal that ends with a viable Palestinian state just a bunch of fragmented chunks of land.
September 5th, 2011  
mmarsh
 
 
Two state solution is the only solution that will work, unfortunately that definition is a matter of controversy. Netanyahu's idea of 2 state means that Palestine will serve as a buffer state between Israel and the rest of the Arab world with no freedom over its skies, seaways, and ability to defend itself. (Very similar to how the USSR treated Eastern Europe during the cold war).

They also think that the land Israel continues to illegally occupy (territorial claims recognized by no one -including the USA) will be annexed into Israel.

Naturally, the conditions Netanyahu has imposed are unacceptable to the Palestinians hence the current stalemate.
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Boots
September 5th, 2011  
84RFK
 
 
I'd go for the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) Future Government of Palestine.

Maybe impose some (or all) elements of Bernadotte's second proposal.
September 5th, 2011  
senojekips
 
 
Yeah!... two state solution,... eh? Why didn't we think of that in WWII, it would have saved so many Allied lives.
September 5th, 2011  
84RFK
 
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Yeah!... two state solution,... eh? Why didn't we think of that in WWII, it would have saved so many Allied lives.
In reality (what we know as reality that is) there is only two possible choices here, a two state solution being one of them.

The other would be that the occupied territories and the Palestine territories becomes an official part of Israel.
That off course would create a whole new set of problems in the future...
September 6th, 2011  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 84RFK
In reality (what we know as reality that is) there is only two possible choices here, a two state solution being one of them.

The other would be that the occupied territories and the Palestine territories becomes an official part of Israel.
That off course would create a whole new set of problems in the future...
But neither of your solutions would solve a thing, in fact both would only further inflame the current problems.

A two state solution would solve nothing as Israel would still be on Palestinian lands, and if you feel thayt is the price we have to pay, put yourself in the shoes of the palestinians. Would you just give up most of your country to an occupying force? The days of colonialism by force of arms, are 100 years gone.

Yeah,... it's tough, and every day that passes is going to make it worse. Eventually International pressure bring about a solution as it did in South Africa.

What never ceases to amaze me is that certain countries have not yet come to the realisation that virtually all of today's terrorism by fundamentalist Muslims, was all bought to a head by the US support for Israel over Palestine.

And it's not going to go away. In the meantime coalition countries spend billions, (trillions in the case of the US) to send the best of our young men and women to risk death in order to support what in any other situation would be declared a pariah state.
September 6th, 2011  
A Can of Man
 
 
Provide statehood for Israel on what is now US land, three times the size of Israel today and with access to the sea on the Pacific coast. There are large stretches of California that are barely inhabited. Provide transport for every Israeli to this new land free of charge. Give current land to Palestine. Problem solved.
September 6th, 2011  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
But neither of your solutions would solve a thing, in fact both would only further inflame the current problems.

A two state solution would solve nothing as Israel would still be on Palestinian lands, and if you feel thayt is the price we have to pay, put yourself in the shoes of the palestinians. Would you just give up most of your country to an occupying force? The days of colonialism by force of arms, are 100 years gone.

Yeah,... it's tough, and every day that passes is going to make it worse. Eventually International pressure bring about a solution as it did in South Africa.

What never ceases to amaze me is that certain countries have not yet come to the realisation that virtually all of today's terrorism by fundamentalist Muslims, was all bought to a head by the US support for Israel over Palestine.

And it's not going to go away. In the meantime coalition countries spend billions, (trillions in the case of the US) to send the best of our young men and women to risk death in order to support what in any other situation would be declared a pariah state.
The problem now is one of realistic outcomes though and reality is that Israel is there and right or wrong 5 million people are not going anywhere so any solution will have to begin with an equitable coexistance process in other words statehood for the Palestinians, long term I would prefer to see this progress like the reunification of Germany into a single democratic secular state but until both sides can grasp tolerance that is a long way off.

As for creating a state out of the USA, I am not sure why the Yanks need to pay for a cockup by Britain and France.
September 6th, 2011  
RayManKiller3
 
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Originally Posted by A Can of Man
Provide statehood for Israel on what is now US land, three times the size of Israel today and with access to the sea on the Pacific coast. There are large stretches of California that are barely inhabited. Provide transport for every Israeli to this new land free of charge. Give current land to Palestine. Problem solved.

I highly doubt the Israelis will accept that. The land is pretty sacred to all those in that area, they're not just going to leave it after being put there. That will also just create problems in the U.S as a good deal of Americans can be ignorant. It won't be as much problems, but it will be seen as U.S sucking on Israel and then conspiracies of Jews controlling the world will grow. Not sure how far that would go though.

I do like that idea though, I just think it wouldn't work.
 


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