Did Jessica Lynch desearve the Bronze Star? - Page 6




View Poll Results :Did Jessica Lynch desearve the Bronze Star?
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April 3rd, 2004  
FutureRANGER
 
 
I found this article on military.com, thought it was relevant here.

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Lynch Ponders Survival, Celebrity
Associated Press
April 1, 2004,


CHARLESTON, W.Va. - Fame has come at a price for former POW Jessica Lynch. Since the supply clerk's wounding and rescue made her the Iraq war's most famous soldier a year ago, well-wishers have been drawn to her at every public appearance, whether at the diner near her home or at the Golden Globe Awards in Beverly Hills.

"I'm just a country girl. It's something I'm not used to, and I probably never will be," the 20-year-old Lynch told The Associated Press. "I do want my life back to normal, because it's hard - it's so hard. But at the same time I'm like - wow, I get to go to New York, I get to go to Hollywood. I get to hang out with people like Britney and Leonardo."

With help from publicists, the young woman who joined the Army to see the world and receive an education has made a handful of appearances since last year's book tour for Rick Bragg's biography, "I Am A Soldier, Too."

Lynch, still a few weeks shy of legal drinking age, won an award from Glamour magazine (where she met Britney Spears); rode in the Gator Bowl parade; starred at Gov. Bob Wise's State of the State speech; attended parties after the Golden Globes (where she met Leonardo DiCaprio); and took a three-day jaunt to the Bahamas after christening a cruise ship.

She tries to oblige every photo and autograph request, most of which come from young girls. But she has turned down scores of other requests, including offers to speak at schools across the country.

"I feel bad, but I can't do them all," Lynch said.

As she grapples with fame, she also struggles with questions both personal (When should I go to college? When should I get married?) and philosophical (Why did I survive when others didn't?).

"I mean, obviously, there has to be a reason," she said. "I don't know what it is yet. So I have to explore all these things to figure it out."

This month, Lynch will do the first of four events for Get Motivated, a national business seminar company that hires speakers such as former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani and former Soviet premier Mikhail Gorbachev.

Her message will be "if I can do it, you can," Lynch said. "I was put in one of the worst situations there is out there. So if you're having problems with your boyfriend or whatever, you can get through it."

Lynch's whirlwind started March 23, 2003, when her 507th Maintenance Company got lost in the southern Iraqi desert and was ambushed in Nasiriyah.

With her vehicle stalled and her rifle jammed, Pfc. Lynch hopped into a Humvee driven by her best friend, Pfc. Lori Piestewa. The vehicle was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade and crashed. The 11 American soldiers who died in the ambush included Piestewa and three others in the Humvee: 1st Sgt. Robert Dowdy, Sgt. George Buggs and Spc. Edward Anguiano.

Lynch suffered two spinal fractures, nerve damage and a shattered right arm, right foot and left leg. According to medical records cited in her biography, she was also sodomized, apparently during a three-hour gap that she cannot recall.

Her videotaped rescue by special forces from a Nasiriyah hospital on April 1 branded Lynch a hero at a time the U.S. war effort seemed bogged down.

It also stirred complaints of U.S. government media manipulation. Early reports - never stemming from Lynch or her family and later disproved - had the flyweight, blonde, former Wirt County Miss Congeniality suffering knife and bullet wounds while fighting off attackers until running out of ammunition.

Lynch agreed to the AP interview on condition that she not be asked about her Iraq ordeal. She repeated her charge that she felt "kind of used" by officials who spread false stories about her. But she declined to discuss the politics of the Iraq war.

Still hobbled and using a cane, Lynch spends several hours a day in rehabilitation therapy. Nerve damage has left her unable to feel her left foot, though doctors hope she will regain its full use. The Army awarded her a medical retirement and an 80 percent disability pension.

"They say a millimeter a day the nerves grow" from where her back was damaged, she said. "They're giving me another year. After that, it might not be looking so good. But there's still hope."

One of the reasons for her survival, as she sees it, has been to allow her to tell her story to the families of the four soldiers who died next to her.

She created a foundation with proceeds from her $1 million book deal. The Jessica Lynch Foundation's goal is to educate children of veterans.

Last month Lynch postponed her June wedding to Sgt. Ruben Contreras, whom she began dating two years ago when they were stationed at Fort Bliss in Texas. She would not discuss details but said they plan to wed next year.

Eventually, Lynch said, she will go to college to work toward her goal of teaching kindergarten. Her face lights up whenever she discusses the job, or children.

Lynch is uncertain whether her wounds will prevent her from starting her own family.

"I do have a lot of problems with everything inside, so I don't know if that'll affect it or not. I hope not, because I'd love to have children," she said. With a shy smile, she added, "Love it."
April 3rd, 2004  
Redleg
 
 
Maybe my Norwenglish isn't that good, but I do not assume that the media stories are correct.

I have seen several stories in the news, that I did experience when I was working abroad.
And they were almost NEVER true...
So I do never assume any more that what I see on TV or read in the news about conflict/war is the thruth...

I can of course not put myself in her place, and I would never want to experience what she did.
But my comments about her deserving the bronze star or not is based on my view (what I have read and heard from others) on the bronze star, and what you have to do to be rewarded it.

When this thread first was started I believed the bronze star to be more like our medal similar to the silver star or MOH (we basically have only one medal like that).
That's why it's great to hear about the different versions of the medal, from people like you.

But a medal like that should not be handed out for being in the wrong place at the wrong time (which I belive is Lynchs case).
She had a real traumatic experience, wich I NEVER want to have myself and I can't imagine how she felt at all, but as I have heard/read/learned she didn't do much other than being captured (please correct me if I'm wrong).
And I do belive that the Bronze/Silver star (or similar) should be handed out for what you have done, not what you have experienced.
She did get the purple heart, and I'm not questioning that one at all.
And I don't know if you (USA) have a medal for having been in a combat situation, but she would certainly deserve one like that as well.
April 3rd, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
We have the CIB (Combat Infantryman's Badge), and I believe there is at least one other equivalent for another branch (please help me out here if any of you know more). I do not believe that anyone besides the 11-series and 18-series can receive the CIB (again, if I am off base, please let me know).
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April 3rd, 2004  
Jamoni
 
I think your right about the CIB, Redneck, although I'm not sure either.
I wonder, is the bronze star the lowest appropriate medal they COULD have awarded her and given her a medal at all? I mean, it would be pretty low to give her an AAM for all that.
April 3rd, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
Yes, CIB is only for 11 series and 18 series. The other is the CMB (Combat Medics Badge).

The bronze star fits her circumstance. Many people do different things to get them, some get shot ... some wreck, some fight tooth and nail. You won't see an 11B get a bronze (most times) as quickly as a support MOS during such an event ... simply because the 11B is expected to preform to higher standards.
April 3rd, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
Thank you for the clarification Sir.
April 3rd, 2004  
Jamoni
 
Yeah, I think an 11B would have at least got a few rounds off.
Another thing to consider is this: She was a volunteer. Nobody forced her to join. Nobody forced her do any of this. She volunteered, knowing full well what it could lead to, and did her duty. Unlike some "situational conscious objectors" when called to deploy she did, as a volunteer soldier. And paid the price for doing that duty. If that's not merit, I don't know what is.
April 3rd, 2004  
Redleg
 
 
You are doing a great job to convince me here now...

And I actually think you have.

A bronze star seems right, but not with a V..
April 3rd, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
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You are doing a great job to convince me here now...
The force is strong on the light side .....
April 4th, 2004  
Redleg
 
 
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Originally Posted by RnderSafe
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You are doing a great job to convince me here now...
The force is strong on the light side .....
Hm..
I hope you don't tell me that you are my father in your next reply...