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A friend of mine in England sent me this. is there anybody on here in England that can verify that this is true, cause this is totally completely WRONG, on so many levels

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Just for the record I find this VERY disturbing
 
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It's worse than that guys. Yesterday, The Anglian Regiment returned from Iraq, having lost some of their number there, and marched through the streets of Luton, just north of London , at their welcoming home.

In a disgusting display, Muslim demonstrators made their presence felt, barracking and raising their usual hate- filled stuff, claiming the returning soldiers are cowards, terrorists, murderers of babies , and rapists of thousands. Included were a crowd of apparently female muslim women, covered from head to foot except for the narrowist of eye slits, taking photographs and joining in the filth. Their posters described the soldiers as 'The Butchers of Basra'.

Many of the onlookers were angry at this and protested. The police kept the Muslims protected and eventually led them away .

We now have a type of civil war taking place, with Muslim recruits heading off to Afghanistan to fight against our own troops there. And STILL our stupid government does not stop the flood of these enemies pouring into our country, and does nothing to rein in the murderous inciters, but protects and encourages them in their hatred and disrespect.

Fortunately, these soldiers paraded through a neighbouring town, Watford, today, and huge crowds turned out to welcome and support them, and to celebrate their return.

Why we have truck with these ingrates I'll never understand. It will all end in tears, for sure.

I have no problem with those who come to live peacefully within our culture, in freedom with us, but these characters are certainly stretching our patience to the extreme. As supposed Brits, they really stink to high heaven.

This is where your flyer sprung from, for sure. Incidently, the Commanding Officer announced that during their tour, his men had fired not one bullet in anger, even though they lost twelve men, but had been training Iraqi troops. I expect most of the demonstrators were living comfortably on bloated benefits.
 
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It sucks, I can only feel for how the Royal Anglians felt, hoping to come back to a supportive home country.

That said we do live in a democracy and that ensures that people are allowed the freedom to express their opinion, whether we like it or not - that is the strength & weakness of a democracy.

I would just like to thank the Poachers for their service & I know that they will not take the chants of a few extremists to heart, after all they have endured much worse and survived.
 
You may live in a democracy, that is no longer quite what we have here. We have a failed so called multi-cultural nonsense which is now being overtaken by Sharia law and the suppression of freedom of speech. For example, I could well be taken to task for referring to those demonstrators as 'Muslim', although that is honest and accurate. Their behaviour was incitement to rally young impressionable Muslim youth as recruits for their flawed agendas and would be completely unacceptable to our authorities if Muslims had been the target rather than our home-coming lads.

This demonstration had nothing whatsoever to do with democracy, and was conducted by the extreme enemies of democracy, those who wish to destroy democracy wherever it exists.

Here, we have to wake up now or go down with a sinking ship.
 
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Well, agreed, but the amazing thing to consider is that in fact the BNP has gained very little support. It is to the credit of the Brits that although theirpolicies on subjects such as these align with the current necessities, the Brits do have no taste for the BNP. But someone in the mainstream must face the problems head on.

One nice move today as far as The Anglians are concerned; at the big fight in Manchester on Saturday night between our Amir Khan and the great Mexican, Barrera - The Anglians have been presented with 50 good complimentary seats ; it's the sentiment that counts! Nice. Hope those guests get plenty of television coverage world-wide on the night. (Looks like a great fight.)
 
Del Boy: Man, I am sorry that happened and the people who demonstrated against the Royal Anglicans are disgusting idiots. Any UK citizen who acts against it is a traitor, pure and simple and you are right, your countrymen need to wake up and take back your government and soon.

wolfen, there are 2 reasons you don’t see this kind of crap very often here (it does happen - the idiots at Code Pink are everywhere):

1. The vast majority of the US population supports the Armed Forces and want no part of the divisiveness that flowed form the Viet Nam War era. That the US Armed Forces are all volunteer helps a lot too - kind of shreds the moral “authority” the Anti-War movement thinks it has.

2. The so called liberal intellectuals who are so against GWOT know that it is political suicide (and possibly personal suicide as well) to pull this kind of junk. Patriotism is not dead in the US. However, we have to be careful not to fall for the same multicultural crud that prevails elsewhere. Since when has any nation state been strong if it openly loathes itself?
 
wolfen said:
A friend of mine in England sent me this. is there anybody on here in England that can verify that this is true, cause this is totally completely WRONG, on so many levels

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Shot at 2009-03-11

Just for the record I find this VERY disturbing
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I wouldnt be surprised if that was true, I remember very well in 2004-5 watching a video on the news of US Marines fragging a house and shooting the survivors [which were citizens].

But then again, they were Americans, not Britons. Apart from all the 18th-19th century crap, I dont remember hearing of Brits doing some crazy stuff to innocent people.
 
I don't know if I saw some azz clowns like that protesting returning troops, I think I'd come unhinged and the result would be me in a cell and hopefully a buncha them in the ER getting patched up. Regardless of whether or not they were females in burkhas.

Del you have my greatest sympathy and I hope that you eventually get your country back.
 
And that truely sucks. Amazing how pin heads of any country can buy into the crap some groups and countries rattle off.
 
 
im curious balkan... are you talking about the incident in Fallujah where U.S. forces gave the city time to have "civilians" leave a hostile "war zone" and that anyone who stayed in the city was aware of the situation and knew the dangers of what was happening? During the time in 2004 and all of 2003, were the most critical parts and most intense fighting when it came to "house clearing" and finding weapon cache's. If you can provide a link to an article of the situation or as some of you would call it to the "murder" or "innocent" civilians that would be helpful.

I dont know if you know what a ROE is or a breif is before heading out past the wire. but i can assure you that any Marine or soldier heading out, will be briefed, and then de-briefed when they return.

I dont want to lash out and go on and on about the war, we can save that for politics, but from what ive dealt with, seen, heard, interviewed, experienced, i can tell you that everyone that ive met came with the same answer when i asked them about their thoughts of war and the fighting that took place outside our bases, and that is, while fighting in such extreme conditions you dont have time to wait and think, u act, making the best possible decisions with the information you have. You think quickly and act even quicker, and at the end of it all, the one thing on everyones mind is them being the ones going home to their families.

I'll be damned if i feel that my life is threatened by someone who hates me with the upmost intent regardless of their affiliation to a terrorist organization. There are more things i would like to say, but to keep it to your remark i would still like a link of something you claim you've very clearly remember seeing.
 
I watched it on TV [Win News], I dont remember everything thoroughly, but I remember clearly the reporter saying 'The soldiers chucked a explosive into the house, then once it exploded they entered the house and shot any survivors'

There was a video of it, the marines were walking around the house [around 6-7 dead bodies visible], and one marine saw a man/woman breathing and shot him twice.

It was horrible, one of the things you would wish to forget.

Im not sure if I can find a link, though.

It COULD have been Fallujah [Im not 100 percent sure], but even if there was civilians, I would expect the soldiers to try to get them out of the way, instead of shooting the near-dead ones in a fragged house.
 
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I wouldnt be surprised if that was true, I remember very well in 2004-5 watching a video on the news of US Marines fragging a house and shooting the survivors [which were citizens].

But then again, they were Americans, not Britons. Apart from all the 18th-19th century crap, I dont remember hearing of Brits doing some crazy stuff to innocent people.
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I believe that you are referring to an incident that took place during Operation Phantom Fury. In which a United States Marine Lance Cpl shot and killed a wounded insurgent who was refusing to surrender or show his hands. The media splashed it all over the place, without explanation and a great nashing of teeth, thumping of chests and wailing about murder.

The incident was investigated and found to be within ROE's and the Rules of land warfare. BTW those "civilians" were insurgents, were armed and had been engaged in active combat operation against the sqaud clearing that building.

So watch out when you accuse anyone of "fragging" civilians" or shooting surviors unless you have hard evidence.
 
ok, me and you are gonna break this down quick. First off, how does the media define a civilian and an insurgent?
1. YOU CANT!
2. Civilians were claimed people who were unarmed at the present time they were seen by any force.
3. Insurgents would attack an coalition force and then run around a corner or run into a HOUSE and ditch the weapons leaving the coalition forced unable to defend themselves with firepower.

Oh and for the house clearing assults that we Marines do, is exactly what we are trained to do. I garantee the houses they were seen assulting did infact have insurgents of some kind HIDING with POSSIBLE civilians. As i said in my previous post, civilians had and were given time to leave a war zone if they infact valued their very own lives... when it boils down to it, if i have an occupying force in my country, i value my life more than i do my property, i will fight for it but in the right manner and time.
 
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Well, agreed, but the amazing thing to consider is that in fact the BNP has gained very little support. It is to the credit of the Brits that although theirpolicies on subjects such as these align with the current necessities, the Brits do have no taste for the BNP. But someone in the mainstream must face the problems head on.

One nice move today as far as The Anglians are concerned; at the big fight in Manchester on Saturday night between our Amir Khan and the great Mexican, Barrera - The Anglians have been presented with 50 good complimentary seats ; it's the sentiment that counts! Nice. Hope those guests get plenty of television coverage world-wide on the night. (Looks like a great fight.)
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I couldn't agree more. GB has laws which prohibit incitement of hatred, of any kind - religious, racial, sexual etc. The ring leaders should be found - as if SB or 5 don't know who they are already!! & prosecuted under the law.

I remember a similar incident during Op Granby, when Trafalgar Sq was filled with protestors about the Iraq War, didn't do much for our morale, but it did serve to remind us that we're a democracy.
 
Fine - but nevertheless these laws tend to work one-way, and we non- Muslims are bearing the brunt, like the two guys arrested for protesting against this bunch of demonstraters, who, as it happens, are happily boasting and re-affirming their vile rants against our soldiers.They have no problem with their high profiles, as my last links establish. Please take a look.

To clarify matters further, here are two more. all worth reading, so that we understand where these guys are coming from:-


http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/ourcomments/view/88938

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/89007

Thank you. In fact, these are important matters for all of us. We must not let our basic liberalism blind us to the fierce realities.
 
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