Which country or region do you think is the most dangerous one in the world?

I think USA and Britain have got to be up there. Although Britain is part of the EU, is way more advanced then a majority of the countries in it. In totally honesty, Britain would be the only country now that would stand any chance of maybe defeating the US in a war.
 
Britney said:
The UN is one of the biggest foul ups and corrupted organisations in the history of man. They want global domination, we run our own business- not a bribed Moroccan diplomat.
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I don't disagree that there are problems with the UN and don't want to be over-confrontational, just to provide some balance here.

The US is precisely accused of this, i.e. dominating the world by forcing free trade on other countries whilst placing cartel's on its own industries. Surely you must agree it is heavily corrupted by Republicans in bed with their business associates? These have heavily profited from the Iraq war.

Why Did Bush Lie us into Iraq?

During the last democratic debate the moderators asked both Sharpton and Kucinich, the two most outspoken liberals on the panel, "If the Bush administration did in fact lie about the reasons for war, why did they?" Neither of them pointed out how the Bush administration hierarchy, and the companies that they represent, are making billions from this illegal war. With the 9-11 Commission finding no link between Iraq and 9-11 and with the search for WMDs proving that Iraq was not only NOT a threat, but completely defenseless, we now have to ask ourselves if there could have been some other motivation. At the bottom of this article I have included a few links to articles and video files on this topic.

"The American people were manipulated," Says Defense Intelligence Agent

Colin Powell upon reading what he had to present to the UN to justify war: "This is B*LL SH*T ."
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Britney said:
Last time they had a military tyraid it nearly drug everything into another world war- like with the first one. Don't you remember how royally ticked the Reds where over the Kosovo thing? I thought they were ready to declare war on NATO for interfering with the whole thing.

I think i would have ranked it higher, but there was a lot of other big fish stirring trouble- plus things seemed to have cooled down marginally from a few years ago.
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Not even Boris Yeltsin was dumb enough to declare war on NATO.

marginally cooled down?

I have lived in Serbia for about 2 and a half years, and beleive me the only people who want to commit genocide and war crimes are the idiots in school who think they are better than everyone else, and there is not many of them.

There are three types of people there: The people loyal to Josip Broz Tito, The younger people who are full of hate and lies and the ones who are willing to do anything to make Serbia a better place.

There is not much of the first two any more.
 
well pakistan Z DANGEROUS because v bcame successfull in sepearating SOVIET UNION n now tYM haz come 4 UNITED STATES of AMERICA.... MARK MY WORDZ! Pakistani NUKEs r absolutely in safe handz u beta bee concerned bot urs nukes first...
 
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It really takes two to tango, and danger lurks where ideologies clash. Israel and it's neighbours are one obvious example. Pakistan and India are another.

However the most militant and dangerous one historically has been the most organised and economically powerful, and they all seem to last around a hundred years. Portugual/Spain in the 16th-17th Century, France up to the 1810s, the UK up to the 1900s, Germany up to 1945, and the US until the present, perhaps China will soon take over? China and India have been historically economically powerful but politically weak and have never been able to get their factions working together until recently.
 
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perseus said:
I don't disagree that there are problems with the UN and don't want to be over-confrontational, just to provide some balance here.

The US is precisely accused of this, i.e. dominating the world by forcing free trade on other countries whilst placing cartel's on its own industries. Surely you must agree it is heavily corrupted by Republicans in bed with their business associates? These have heavily profited from the Iraq war.
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You must be joking.. You have any idea how many made up stories there are about anything relating to a political party here? The whole "bush lied soldiers died" phrase, and 'Iraq fir profits' have been used by anti-war groups ( in-particularly in the Democratic party that is the apposing major party to the Republican one) for years. It's just politics, no one pays any mind to it, its a joke.. I have no love for the Republican party,they said they stood for somthing when they didnt- but they aren't guilty of that too, nearly all of the prominent Democrats voted for the invasion as well. It wasn't a Republican sideshow, even if they where the party in charge at the time. To suggest a party would start a war for it's country just to get a tad richer is a bit extreme dont you think? If your refer to Halliburton thats a bit less extreme, as i can see how it could practically happen- but i believe it was a practical choice to select them. They where in the region already, they where marginally/moderately cheaper than it's competitors, and they had good relationships ( at the time) with Cheney the vice president. Why not select them?



As for the economics part, i must say im insulted by the idea. We don't force nations into free trade, we certainly dont place "cartels" on our own industries, Health care being a exception ( much to the public dismay i might add, as its forced prices to skyrocket)




Zastava-Arms said:
Not even Boris Yeltsin was dumb enough to declare war on NATO.

marginally cooled down?

I have lived in Serbia for about 2 and a half years, and beleive me the only people who want to commit genocide and war crimes are the idiots in school who think they are better than everyone else, and there is not many of them.

There are three types of people there: The people loyal to Josip Broz Tito, The younger people who are full of hate and lies and the ones who are willing to do anything to make Serbia a better place.

There is not much of the first two any more.
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Hey just a outside eye looking in, i haven't seen Churches getting burnt down for a long time now, and the armies seem to stay in it's own borders. I still wouldn't want to live there though..




sanaa said:
well pakistan Z DANGEROUS because v bcame successfull in sepearating SOVIET UNION n now tYM haz come 4 UNITED STATES of AMERICA.... MARK MY WORDZ! Pakistani NUKEs r absolutely in safe handz u beta bee concerned bot urs nukes first...
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....What?
 
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Britney said:
Hey just a outside eye looking in, i haven't seen Churches getting burnt down for a long time now, and the armies seem to stay in it's own borders. I still wouldn't want to live there though.
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American Politics has succesfully made it seem that Serbia is comparable to Afghanistan, and that we kill each other just for fun.

Serbia is a pretty safe country if you keep your head down and mind you own business. Its just if you go meddling with the wrong people, then you will seriously regret it.

Oh and luckily enough you are allowed to shoot somebody that breaks into your house if you catch them [And similar stuff].


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well pakistan Z DANGEROUS because v bcame successfull in sepearating SOVIET UNION n now tYM haz come 4 UNITED STATES of AMERICA.... MARK MY WORDZ! Pakistani NUKEs r absolutely in safe handz u beta bee concerned bot urs nukes first...

Well Pakistan is dangerous because we were succesfull in seperating the Soviet Union, and now time has come for the United States of America...MARK MY WORDS!! Pakistani nuclear warheads are absolutely in safe hands. You better be concerned about your nukes first...
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To suggest a party would start a war for it's country just to get a tad richer is a bit extreme dont you think?

As for the economics part, i must say im insulted by the idea. We don't force nations into free trade, we certainly dont place "cartels" on our own industries, Health care being a exception ( much to the public dismay i might add, as its forced prices to skyrocket)
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Even posters on this site admit that the need to secure reliable sources of oil was an important factor, if not the only one to invade. The Lobbying by businesses in Congress should not be underestimated. Quite often politicians regularly move between state Dept's and the defence industries.

I'm afraid there is vast evidence that the US has indeed forced countries into free trade and undermined democracy in their countries by corrupting their politicians, the list is endless.

http://www.economichitman.com/

Ecuador is one of the more notorious

In September 1960, a new government headed by José María Velasco Ibarra came to power. Velasco had won a decisive electoral victory, running on a vaguely liberal, populist, something-for- everyone platform. He was no Fidel Castro, he was not even a socialist, but he earned the wrath of the US State Department and the CIA by his unyielding opposition to the two stated priorities of American policy in Ecuador: breaking relations with Cuba, and clamping down hard on activists of the Communist Party and those to their left.
Over the next three years, in pursuit of those goals, the CIA left as little as possible to chance. A veritable textbook on covert subversion techniques unfolded. In its pages could be found the following, based upon the experiences of Philip Agee, a CIA officer who spent this period in Ecuador
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http://killinghope.org/bblum6/ecuador.htm
 
@ indian guy! i think u r unfamiliar wid d current situation going on in RED CORRIDOR which comprises PATNA, RANCHI, HYDERABAD deze r NAXALLITES affacted areaz 40% OV UR MOTHER LAND z goin thru wid severe critical situation... Minoritiez r strugglin for dere basic human rights and specially d CLASS system!
 
It may be an urban legend, but I have read Washington DC has more murders and armed robberies (1965 - 2009) than Bagdad, Kabul, the West Bank/Jerusalem, Belfast, Mogadishu or Mexico City.

So I nominate Washington DC, although I felt fairly safe when last there in November 1992. :smile:
 
perseus said:
Even posters on this site admit that the need to secure reliable sources of oil was an important factor, if not the only one to invade. The Lobbying by businesses in Congress should not be underestimated. Quite often politicians regularly move between state Dept's and the defence industries.

I'm afraid there is vast evidence that the US has indeed forced countries into free trade and undermined democracy in their countries by corrupting their politicians, the list is endless.

http://www.economichitman.com/

Ecuador is one of the more notorious



http://killinghope.org/bblum6/ecuador.htm
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I take severe offence by your accusations against us. Americans are a just and noble people who would not lower themselves to be bullies to others. Why on Earth would you be reading from those sites anyways? Its no wonder you think the things you do! Try somthing mainstream o_O not a collection of speeches by anti-Americanists who accuse of of being a empire. If it came from somthing like FNC i would pay it more mind, but not...that come on o_O It's like asking Ahmadinejad about what he thinks of Israel then quoteing him!
 
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Americans are a just and noble people who would not lower themselves to be bullies to others.
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The typical, arrogant view by Americans beleiving they are all godlike creatures superior to others.

Try somthing mainstream
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Uhh, yeah fox news...Fox will tell you ALL THE TRUE FACTS!12!!1!#RJ

So you want him to go talk to some redneck who absolutely thinks America is the ruddy king of the world? Of course, that is absolutely true though! Perseus, how in the name of KENTUCKY could you say such things!
 
Britney said:
I take severe offence by your accusations against us. Americans are a just and noble people who would not lower themselves to be bullies to others. Why on Earth would you be reading from those sites anyways? Its no wonder you think the things you do! Try somthing mainstream o_O not a collection of speeches by anti-Americanists who accuse of of being a empire. If it came from somthing like FNC i would pay it more mind, but not...that come on o_O It's like asking Ahmadinejad about what he thinks of Israel then quoteing him!
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no offence but do you seriously believe you are just and noble?
i don't think any country has been able to make that claim at anytime during the history of man...

iof you seriously do i think you may have lost touch with reality...
 
Zastava-Arms said:
Too much foxtel.
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Now the yanks do a bloody good job in many things, all other things taken into account, (but fer christ's sakes don't tell 'em I said so),.... but,... Just and Noble,.... it kinda sticks in the craw a bit don't you think?, Koff,.. koff,...

Christ, even if it were true I'd be too bloody embarrassed to admit it. That is possibly the most patronising piece of garbage I've read on this site since the days of Phoenix80.

Now after me,... 1, 2, 3..."We are the champions, we are the ,... etc, etc":lol:

That's definitely gunna be one for the book, I really must write that one down, "Just and Noble",... pbbbtt, Koff, Snort,.. Hahaha
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Ahhh,....... oh shite,... (wipes tears from his eyes) I mean to say that is a classic, I only have to think about it and I get a fit of the giggles. It reminds me of the saying, there are only two things thought to be infinite,... the universe, and much closer to home, some people's stupidity.

I gotta go, my ribs are starting to ache.
 
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