The Taliban and the Destruction of a World Wonder

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godofthunder9010

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I don't know how many of you know anything about the Buddha's of Bamiyan in Afganistan, but I recently saw somehing on PBS about it. There was an ancient city called Bamiyan along the Silk Road. It was at a critical location and Bamiyan became incredibly weathy and prosperous. It was there that two Statues of Buddha were built. They were absolutely enormous and one of those little-known wonders of the world. The Taliban had them dynamited because they were images of "heretical false gods."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan
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In March 2001, according to Agence France Presse in Kabul, the decree declared, "Based on the verdict of the clergymen and the decision of the Supreme Court of the Islamic Emirate (Taliban) all the statues around Afghanistan must be destroyed. All the statues in the country should be destroyed because these statues have been used as idols and deities by the non-believers before. They are respected now and may be turned into idols in future too. Only Allah, the Almighty, deserves to be worshipped, not anyone or anything else."
Information and Culture Minister Qadratullah Jamal told Associated Press of a decision by 400 religious clerics from across Afghanistan, declaring the Buddhist statues against the tenets of Islam. "They came out with a consensus that the statues were unIslamic," said Jamal.
The London Times, on March 6, reported Mullah Mohammed Omar stating "Muslims should be proud of smashing idols. It has given praise to God that we have destroyed them." During a March 13 interview for Japan's Mainichi Shimbun, Foreign Afghan Minister Wakil Ahmad Mutawakel stated that the destruction was anything but a retaliation against the international community for economic sanctions. "We are destroying the Buddha statues in accordance with Islamic law and it is purely a religious issue."
After surviving intact for over 1,500 years, the Islamist Taliban government, decreed that the statues were idolatrous and unislamic. During the destruction, Taliban Information Minister Qudratullah Jamal lamented that, "this work of destruction is not as easy as people might think. You can't knock down the statues by shelling as both are carved into a cliff; they are firmly attached to the mountain." The two largest Buddhas faced dynamite and tank barrages and were demolished after almost a month of intensive bombardment.
In March 2001, according to Agence France Presse in Kabul, the decree declared, "Based on the verdict of the clergymen and the decision of the Supreme Court of the Islamic Emirate (Taliban) all the statues around Afghanistan must be destroyed. All the statues in the country should be destroyed because these statues have been used as idols and deities by the non-believers before. They are respected now and may be turned into idols in future too. Only Allah, the Almighty, deserves to be worshipped, not anyone or anything else."
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Here is a picture of one of them before the Taliban obliterated it:
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There was already extensive damage done by the Taliban, using the Buddha as target practice for artillery. As a testiment to their giant stature, it took a couple months of dynamiting and bombarding to complete finish of the two statues. Please note the people standing underneath, to give you an idea of the size of the statues (yeah, there was another one).

MY POINT (which I didn't have time for before now): Other than the obvious loss of a priceless historical treasure and holy site, the Taliban managed to demonstrate something very important here. The Muslim world seems to regularly ask itself, "Gee, wouldn't it be great if we once again built the government of all of our nations based on the Holy Koran?" The intentional destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan perfectly demonstrates the sort of Bigotry and Complete Disrespect for Other People's Religions that the Taliban had. They were overwhelmingly against any other religion being allowed to practice within the borders of Afganistan, making it the law of the land to completely erase every other religious faith. In its current status, Islam is incapable of instituting 'Rule and Government by the Holy Book' because the extremists elements will inevitably lead to things like this repeating themselves.

By the way, the Taliban actually forced a faithful Buddist to set the dynamite and detonate them. He was interviewed later and said that he would have been more than willing to die to save the Buddhas, but he knew full well that the Taliban would destroy them. So he did it. Must be an awful thing to be forced to demolish one of your religion's most sacred sites.
 
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I don't remember how much damage the imbeciles did before they stopped. I need to go back and read up on it.
 
What a bunch of animals. Oops, animals have brains, I'm sorry. That's quite a load of bad Karma for the folks, I hope they have had time to make amends.
 
Yeah, I remember hearing about this way back when I was in middle school I think. One of those things that makes a kid go "what the F***, how can adults do something so stupid?" and I have never forgotten it.
 
Italian Guy said:
I think one of the statues was 50 % destroyed and the other one pretty much 100 %. But I might be wrong.
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No, both were completely destroyed
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Even though the figures of the two large Buddhas are almost completely destroyed, their outlines and some features are still recognizable within the recesses.
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As it says, they are completely and totally gone.
There was strong historical evidence that a legendary 3rd Buddha still exists, but is lost somewhere at Bamiyan. That Buddha statue was supposedly lying flat on its back and was supposed to be either 1000 ft or 1000 meters (don't remember which at the moment) that they are trying to find. They think they've unearthed a corner of it. This one was supposed to be lying on its back.

To answer the question about the work being done toward their restoration:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/4134252.stm

BTW, added a picture of one of the statues to my original post.
 
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Considering the magnitude and historical significance of the Statues, I think that with or without helping Al Qeda, the Taliban really needed to go!
 
I believe one of the goals of the new government is to restore these and other religious sites to their state before the Taliban took over.
 
Missileer said:
I don't remember how much damage the imbeciles did before they stopped. I need to go back and read up on it.
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Were those the same imbeciles that were funded by the Americans, British and Saudi Arabia to get the Russians out of the country?

The creation of the Taliban was "actively encouraged by the ISI and the CIA," according to Selig Harrison, an expert on U.S. relations with Asia. "The United States encouraged Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to support the Taliban, certainly right up to their advance on Kabul," adds respected journalist Ahmed Rashid. When the Taliban took power, State Department spokesperson Glyn Davies said that he saw "nothing objectionable" in the Taliban's plans to impose strict Islamic law, and Senator Hank Brown, chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on the Near East and South Asia, welcomed the new regime: "The good part of what has happened is that one of the factions at last seems capable of developing a new government in Afghanistan." "The Taliban will probably develop like the Saudis. There will be Aramco [the consortium of oil companies that controlled Saudi oil], pipelines, an emir, no parliament and lots of Sharia law. We can live with that," said another U.S. diplomat in 1997.
 
Yes, the same imbeciles that were destroyed forever by the American and British militaries as well. Well they are still running around un Afghanistan, I suppose nobody has told them that they have been destroyed.
 
Welshwarrior said:
Yes, the same imbeciles that were destroyed forever by the American and British militaries as well. Well they are still running around un Afghanistan, I suppose nobody has told them that they have been destroyed.
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I think the people of Afghanistan told them loud and clear when they went to the polls in large numbers and confirmed they want a democratically elected government that is still in power and gets stronger everyday.
 
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