A Can of Man
Je suis aware
As I've said over and over again, show me and I'll believe the hype.
I don't trust every piece of American hardware either.
I don't trust every piece of American hardware either.
Russian submarines patrol off US east coast
Zastava-Arms
Banned
Both US and Russia over exaggerate the bull they produce. Every time I go to a newsagent and look at one of the military magazines, you always see the same thing "USA has built new super weapon capable of smacking all the vodka out of Russias backside..."
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
Well everyone does because they have to sell the darn things.
We're getting a bit off topic so....
We're getting a bit off topic so....
now new subs are made - the Boraya type submarines.
The God of northern wind in translation.
c/Commander
Active member
They're having problems producing the missiles for the Borei-class, and the boats themselves are pretty expensive...
Zastava-Arms
Banned
Yeah, the Bulava missile has been having some problems, but they will probably fix it all up. If not, then they will just use another missile.
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
Yeah they're going to get it right sooner or later.
c/Commander
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It's honestly kind of a who-cares moment. They have two fast-attacks off our coast...so what? They aren't carrying nuclear weapons...
Mikefrombelgium
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Dont want to start a flame war or anything, but i see you live in Australia so why are you defending Russia so much? If russia is so great then why dont you live there? (Depending if you are Russian offcourse)
and again this is a serious question, not my intention to start trouble.
Zastava-Arms
Banned
Because I dont speak Russian.
Chukpike
Banned
What makes you think that?
Zastava-Arms
Banned
Yeah, I wouldnt be surprised if the NATO subs off RUSSIA'S coast are carrying enough nukes to turn Asia into a hole.
c/Commander
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Because they're SSNs; not SSBNs. They might be carrying a nuclear torpedo or two, but those things have this small caveat where the shockwave kinda messes up the boat that fires them. Russia probably has boomers around, but these aren't them.
Damn skippy.
there were two projects of same type of missiles bulava and another one, bulava is canceled due to lack of succesful launches..it had like 3 out of 11 launches work.
the other missile is the same capabilities but it was succesful every time.
was some where on the european news. dont know the link and dont remember the missiles name.
I remembered! Kornet, the missile is classified as cornet. I think
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Russia got better at building submarines?
I read a book on k-129, and the author said that during the cold war,
russian submarines were made crudley and functional. Some parts were wood inside (structure beam? idk the term, but for support), and it was made fast as they could.
Is this wrong?
I read a book on k-129, and the author said that during the cold war,
russian submarines were made crudley and functional. Some parts were wood inside (structure beam? idk the term, but for support), and it was made fast as they could.
Is this wrong?
c/Commander
Active member
I would seriously doubt the use of wood as a structural element, but there was a distinct decision made to sacrifice reactor shielding for speed...
senojekips
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The Russkies will not easily get the west worried again as they did in the Cold war.
When the old Russian Federation collapsed, a lot of secrets were learned by us and a lot more of our assumptions were confirmed as to the overall shoddiness of their preparedness, and equipment, right down poor training and severe morale problems at the lowest levels. It appears that their "non nuclear" strength was in huge poorly trained manpower reserves, and even this had it's problems.
I think that anyone who imagines that any of the above means that we will take our eye off the ball, would be rather foolish,... not even for a second.
When the old Russian Federation collapsed, a lot of secrets were learned by us and a lot more of our assumptions were confirmed as to the overall shoddiness of their preparedness, and equipment, right down poor training and severe morale problems at the lowest levels. It appears that their "non nuclear" strength was in huge poorly trained manpower reserves, and even this had it's problems.
I think that anyone who imagines that any of the above means that we will take our eye off the ball, would be rather foolish,... not even for a second.
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