Good to know our troops are moving out of there now .. too many wasted lives for nothing.....:sniper:
Just noticed the gunners personal weapon lying on the mount - when did Norway exchange their AG3 for the M16-series ? And is the Aimpoint + magnifier standard issue in the Norwegian Army?
Yeah, ever been?
Quite cool that the schools have reopened and that females actually are allowed to attend, huh?
That the public beheadings in the stadium have stopped.
That people are allowed to dance and even complain when something isn´t right.
Funny thing that the locals smile and welcome patrols that actually keep them safe for a bit.
Imagine what we could have done if it had been "for something" huh?
We started to phase out the AG-3 in favor of the HK416 in 08/09.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_HK416
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_HK416
Most of our MP-5's will also be replaced with MP-7's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MP7
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MP7
Hello Henk,..none of them afghans are even slightly happy with us ....
So you think you Swedes are welcome? Dream on dude..
take a walk alone outside your base ..wanna bet thats impossible for swedes too?
You want me to believe that in the Swedish sector Afghans are more western minded than all ultra conservative muslims in the rest of the country who reject their daughters to go to school ?
Amsterdam alone has thousands of refugees from afghan from at least two different wars .. and because they all need to go school here i meet and talk to plenty of them , for they follow the same courses my thai spouse needs to do ..ill let them read your statements ..wanna bet they laugh their heads off at your naivity ...
Also great to hear you really dig our troops attemps to support this lost cause
Like the rest of NATO Swedes were not invited by any afghan ...they invited themselves .
dream on Sir ..time will prove how wrong you are .
Well ..many still come here 'fresh' from the countryside ..so its not a outdated viewpoint at al.
You are in a quiet area obviously ..Stil I dont understand why you seem to think you are welcome ??
Are you Swedes paying so much bribes to keep the good ole boys happy that it stays so quiet? Do you only get IED's after touching the poppy fields ? Seems like your talking about a whole different country to me .
Why people hate us and see no difference to Americans ? Simple answer ..Our troops get shot at , they call in air strikes cause its too dangerous to enter these villages and 70 civilians get killed ..hearts and minds you know...
Offcourse theyre no fan of us ! Why you think i gave the Nazi example ?
Dutch cant leave their base alone ..thats literally what my friends tell me ..most came back pretty negative minded from being there .
It even went so far that the military top informed villagers where to find unembedded journalists in the hope the Talibs got rid of them ..thats fact . All to keep up the good image at home ..that were doing a buildup job ... dont make me laugh . The gouvernment that sent our troops has been totally butchered after last elections .Buildup with marines and special forces as carpenters...Even orgs like Medicins sans frontieres cant operate there ..says it all .
Yes it is. :smil:Cheers mate.
Is the Aimpoint and the magnifier standard issue aswell ?
We aren´t paying bribes at all, well sans teching the local populace how to make better use of their farmlands, increase their crops and how to handle threatening situations with the local opposition, by getting intouch with us and so on and forth.
Kruska just told you how little monetary assets we have incountry.
What we DO have instead, is the trust of most of the locals in our area.
Why would anyone call in an airstrike that kills 70 civilians?
What makes sence is to go into the village, find the opposition stronghold and take it down or as a last resort you call in the airstrike on the actual stronghold.
Could it be dangerous?
Yes without a doubt, someone once told me that working as a soldier could get dangerous from time to time.
I am not about to kill scores of innocents because it is "too dangerous" to find the opposition.
Kind of the essence of being a soldier, close with and destroy the enemy.
Plus it will gain you momentum in the H&M field.
That along with leaving your FOB from time to time, actually go out and live with the locals for periods of time.. But you know that right?
You might not have done a build up job, but that seems rather like a soldier failiure rather then a political one if they stay on their FOB when they are not calling in CAS on civilians.
Special Forces ARE carpenters, they are also fishermen, doctors, herders, teachers, and what have you.
Above all they are diplomats and security.
All to complete the mission.
UW/FID
They are ALSO capable of DA missions and a score of other things.
But this concept is probably hard to understand from the outside.
We have doctors without frontiers right here in our midst, they are called medics.
They may not be brainsurgeons, but they treat people in every village we come across and they ease the burdens of as many people as they can.
To someone who has never gotten medical care before I´d say that is one of them other improvements.
You know the ones that don´t exist.
When you say you are hoping we will inherit your mess in Uruzgan.
Who exactly is "us" in that sentence?
BTW Kruska you figures is off.
Well the money ones might be correct, that I do not know.
But your troop figures are off.
Have a nice day gents.
Nah, in no way are we superior to the other OEF forces who set us up for success 9 years ago.Yes ..you Swedes are way more superior than all other foreign forces there , cammoed social workers for the good course !
Wait till Swedes are asked to do a serious active fighting task too..wanna see how much of that claimed H&M is left after some cowboy A10's help your Swedish boys out ..and how friendly your locals are then ..
offcourse your locals will differenciate you Swedes from American occupiers right? lol Youre so naive ...
When your boys come home in coffins the way its going in Uruzgan with the Dutch you're pulled out a lot quicker by your gouvernment than our boys ...wanna bet? :cheers:
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