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EladBell

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i need information about the navies of earlier times...like the colonial navies...about the ships....size,hull,sail,cannons,ammunition,and much of the technical things

thank u:salute2:
 
Wow... that is a huge subject altogether. I suggest you find some books and just study it. You can spend your whole life studying that stuff.
 
the_13th_redneck said:
Wow... that is a huge subject altogether. I suggest you find some books and just study it. You can spend your whole life studying that stuff.
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Indeed.

Patrick O´Brien might be a good start to read (plenty of books out there: Aubrey/Maturin Series, aka "Master and Commander"), as all his stuff was - while fictionally with the protagonists he used - based on actual log books:

http://www.wwnorton.com/pob/pobhome.htm

I found them delivering great insight on why some Navies were outperforming others against odds.

Here a quick rundown of the first in the series as described in Wikipedia:

The story starts out on April 18, 1800, in Port Mahon, Minorca, a base of the Royal Navy at that time. A shipless lieutenant wasting away in port, Jack Aubrey, meets Stephen Maturin, a poor half-Irish and half-Catalan physician and natural philosopher, at an evening concert at the Governor’s Mansion. The two of them do not quite get along during this first encounter. A duel almost occurs when Jack Aubrey gets elbowed by Maturin to stop humming while the string quartet is playing.

Later that evening, on his way back to his living quarters, Jack Aubrey finds out that he was promoted to the rank of Commander and has been given command of the sloop Sophie. His joy overcomes his animosity towards Stephen Maturin and they quickly become good friends. The ship's surgeon having left with the previous captain, Maturin is asked by Aubrey to sign on in that post. Although Maturin is a physician, not just a mere surgeon, he agrees, since he is currently unemployed.

Also introduced into the story are Master's Mates Thomas Pullings, William Mowett, midshipman William Babbington, and James Dillon, the Sophie's first lieutenant. Dillon has a secret background as a member of the United Irishmen which crosses with Stephen's own.

Aubrey improves Sophie's sailing qualities by adding a larger yard which allows him to spread a larger mainsail. She then is sent to accompany a small convoy of merchant ships. During their journey east, the new captain, Aubrey, takes the opportunity to get to know his sailors and work them into a fighting unit. As he does this, he and the crew explain many naval matters to Maturin (and to the reader) since the doctor has never served aboard a man-of-war.

After the convoy duties, Lord Keith allows Aubrey to cruise independently, looking for French merchants. After a number of prizes are taken, they meet and defeat the Cacafuego, a Spanish frigate, losing a number of crew, including Dillon, in the bloody action and gaining the respect of other naval officers. However, Captain Harte, the commandant at Mahon, has a grudge against Aubrey, who has been having an affair with his wife. His malevolence ensures the victory brings Aubrey and his crew no official recognition, promotion, or significant prize money.

On her following escort duty, Sophie is captured by a squadron of four large French warships after a pursuit and a brave but hopeless resistance.

The Battle of Algeciras begins, and after a short period as prisoners of war, they are exchanged, missing the fighting. Back at Gibraltar, Aubrey must undergo a court-martial over the loss of his ship, but he is cleared of the charges.
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This episode is based on the capture of the Spanish frigate El Gamo by Thomas Cochrane commanding the sloop HMS Speedy. The exploit of setting up a decoy of a large ship at night by attaching lights to a small boat was executed by Cochrane and described in his Autobiography of a Seaman, which was used by O'Brian as source material for this novel.

The prisoner island ("Dragon Island") mentioned in this episode is 2k from where I live and called "Isla Dragonera", you can see it in the left bkgnd on this pic of my bay:

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or here how it looked today (though I took the pic 2 yrs ago), a bit more along the lines it is described in the novel:

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Hope that helps,

Rattler
 
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Well..i loved the series for master and commander..but i live in a different age where there were a few that came before mr aubry

The first being the Haratio Hornblower series by CS Forrester. This is a very good series, if a little dated.

the second series is the Bolitho cronicles by alexander kent. possibly as good as the master and commander series, and a little more realistic than the hornblower series.

here is a link to the man who wrote the bolithos:

http://www.douglasreeman.com/

like the guys said...thats a large order for information on a subject that few know well. all the authors written about in this thread know it well. good luck

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Look into the roman navy it was around very long and was influenced by powerful naval states, key words imo
Bireme
trireme( i think its spelled?)
Quareme ( not sure either)
 
You may also need to give a specific date. I know that navy advancement grew rather rapidly once we came out of the medieval period. So it really does depend what era you are interested in. But as redneck said, there are hundreds of books and sites that can assist you.
 
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