HISTORY'S BEST-BEHAVED MILITARY

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[SIZE=-1]August 3, 2007 -- THE media love to trash our troops. Every crime alleged to have been committed by a soldier or Marine in Iraq is headlined until it seems that those in uniform are so busy with atrocities they haven't got time to fight. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]No accusation is too preposterous for "respected" media outlets to feature, and the left-wing press convicts our troops long before they see a courtroom. Our service members are portrayed (by those who never served) as a sadistic rabble. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]But when you look at the facts - the hard numbers - a very different picture emerges. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]While crimes committed by our troops can't be condoned (and they certainly aren't), official crime statistics make it clear that we have the best-behaved military in history - one that's vastly more law-abiding than our general population. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]The here-at-home numbers are readily available from public sources. So let's compare some domestic crime rates with the misdeeds of those vicious storm-troopers of ours. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In the 19-month period - over a year and a half - from Jan. 1, 2006 until the morning you read this, misbehavior by our troops resulted in a total of 59 scheduled court-martials in Iraq - 21 of them general court-martials, which are reserved for the most-serious crimes (murder, rape, robbery, assault, arson and so forth). The other 38 were special court-martials, invoked for lesser offenses, such as disciplinary infractions or petty theft. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]OK: 59 trials in 19 months, among an average troop population of almost 140,000. Compare that to civilian crime statistics back home, and it's clear that any of us would welcome the chance to live among such model citizens - even though our troops are overwhelmingly within the age window where criminal behavior is most frequent. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Start with a city that Money magazine rated as "one of the 10 best places to live" in the United States: Ann Arbor, Mich. Home to a great university, the town has a population of about 113,300 - about 20,000 lower than our pre-surge troop numbers in Iraq. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In 2005 (the last year for which statistics are available), that ideal place to live recorded 1,476 crimes that, if committed by a soldier, would have required a general court-martial - plus a further 2,282 thefts and similar infractions that, depending on the details, would have been handled by either a general or a special court-martial. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Twelve months in Ann Arbor, 3,758 court-martial-equivalent trials. If all the crimes had been taken to court, which one doubts. Nineteen months in Iraq, under the complex stresses of combat? Fifty-nine court-martials. Guess that bastion of ethical liberalism in Michigan needs to go through basic training. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]But let's give peace a chance: The most dogmatically left-wing city in the United States is undoubtedly (the People's Republic of) Santa Cruz, Calif. With a population of some 55,000 - about a third of our current troop numbers in Iraq - Santa Cruz, where the Age of Aquarius reigns, had 503 violent crimes in 2004 (the latest statistics available) and a total of 3,665 crimes that would qualify for court-martials. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Extrapolate those numbers to match our current troop strength, and you'd have a requirement for more than 10,000 court-martial equivalents. If Santa Cruz were as serious about punishing its criminals as our military is . . . [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]The military doesn't do warnings and probation. If a soldier does the crime, he or she will do the time or pay the other relevant penalty - court-martials directly reflect the number of crimes committed. That means that our troops in a combat zone have had less than 1 percent of the crime rate in Santa Cruz - whose City Council in 2003 was proud to be the first in the United States to adopt a resolution denouncing the war in Iraq. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Nor are these hotbeds of peace, love and shirked responsibility alone in being criminal empires compared to the good order prevailing in our military. Take a genuinely decent American city, Lynchburg, Va., with a strong religious tradition, 11 colleges, universities and technical schools and a population in 2006 of 67,720 (about half the pre-surge number of troops in Iraq). [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In 2005, Lynchburg suffered 857 criminal acts that would've demanded general court-martials in the military and a further 1,805 thefts, many of which would have resulted in special court-martials. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Yet Lynchburg is particularly well-behaved. The stats for many cities are far worse. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Now set those facts against the hypocrisy of so many in the media toward our men and women in uniform. Did any of the reporters wailing about the deplorable behavior of our troops in a half-dozen incidents over four years bother to put those crimes into perspective? [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Our troops are performing remarkably well under difficult conditions, and our military does a solid job of screening out sociopaths. But, inevitably, some slip through (the private-for-life who recently conned The New Republic might qualify). And it's the one scumbag among 10,000 honorable men and women in uniform who gets the press attention. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Of course, we rightly demand model standards of behavior from our troops, as we do from law-enforcement agents and officers. And today's U.S. armed forces deliver, taking good order and discipline very seriously. We all should be proud of how selflessly and honorably our troops have served as the jackals on the home tear at the military's carcass. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]I learned an important lesson myself in digging out these statistics: I knew, of course, how decent our troops are. I served with them for almost 22 years (and testified at two court-martials in two decades). But on future trips to California - my favorite foreign country - I'll be sure to give Santa Cruz a wide berth. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]I'd hate to be the victim of an atrocity. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Ralph Peters is the author of the new book "Wars of Blood and Faith: The Conflicts That Will Shape the 21st Century." [/SIZE]

http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly...roops__crimes_opedcolumnists_ralph_peters.htm
 
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The US military now is undoubtedly the most best behaved military.
If you're screaming and complaining about what they do, check out everyone else.
 
First of all what is meant by 'most well behaved'? This is the military, not a baby. Does that mean lowest crime figures?

If so, I don't know about that, thats seems like a very general statement. Compare the number of courts martials in to the US military to say those in the Swedish military or Swiss or about a hundred other nations armies for a given year...

I cannot say with any certainty, but my little pinky tells me thats an erroneous statement. I suspect there are more courtsmartials in the US military than in most other countries. Simply because we are larger and deployed in more troubled regions.
 
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I think it refers to actions during war.
Best Behaved Military... probably true but the 2nd most best behaved military probably wasn't too hard to beat.
Then again on 2nd thought, TRULY the best behaved militaries of the world were the ones who surrendered upon contact with the enemy.
 
I think it refers to actions during war.
Best Behaved Military... probably true but the 2nd most best behaved military probably wasn't too hard to beat.
Then again on 2nd thought, TRULY the best behaved militaries of the world were the ones who surrendered upon contact with the enemy.

I will back mmarsh on this one.

It may be the best behaved American military in US history but there is no comparative data to indicate that it is better or worse than any of the other major players out there so I think the term "History's best behaved" is unproven.

In fact the data provided is somewhat iffy anyway as you can only really compare like with like and I certainly doubt that the conditions placed on troops in a war zone can be compared to those on civilians in downtown USA.
 
Yeah it's not anything concrete but it's the general direction in which the world's headed. The military world as well that is.
Again, this "best behaved" really is subjective isn't it? Like what conditions were they in? A peacekeeping mission that had a total of one, fifteen minute firefight or an all out war? Was the military force in question fighting on foreign or home soil? etc etc.
Either way, not a very important thread... probably just a reaction to the "AMERICAN TROOPS ARE BABY EATERS!!" thing.
 
it's a wierd sort of statement to make, as what is it being compared to? personally it think when you have the haditha "incident" and off the top of my head....that case of a soldiers killing a girls family, raping here then trying to burn the evidence....would pretty much rule out any comment of "oh look how well behaved we are.


now, before anyone jumps down my throat...yes, this is the isolated actions of a few individuals....but still, it's a wierd comment to make, especially without any mention of who, what or when the current force is being compared to, behaviour wise
 
Yeah the Eastern Front in WWII was totally a rape-fest. America is doing pretty good this run, I'd say.

Agreed. Consider the treatment of the American, British and other allied POWs in Japanese camps... And then consider the treatment of axis powers' soldiers in the hands of allies! You'll notice the difference!
 
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