senojekips
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I'm saying nothing, just make up your own mind as to whether there are too many firearms in the USA.
Stevens is correct, it does not good to try to converse with you folks....... maybe you have bent a knee for to long and unable to hunt the *Kings* land to understand - I, like her will not comment further on this thread.
As you will never get gun control in America what they should do is have a one cent tax on every bullet sold in America and the money raised from that should then be spent on Security for the all the schools. This way the people with guns would pay to keep the children safe.
I know that was during the era known as the Clinton gun ban. They don't anymore thank god. :cheers: But as Brig has said, the majority of the crimes committed are by handguns. So my access to a semi-auto or even a full auto affects the crime rate by a small margin.
*yawn* Why is it always foreigners who think they know best what America needs and should do on every topic, especially this one? -SMH-
Proof that the Gun Free School Zone Act is useless other than providing a pool of defenceless victims. Repeal it now.Yeah, you've got the issue under control :roll::
From September 1986 to September 1990:
At least 71 people (65 students and 6 school employees) had been killed with guns at school.
201 were severely wounded by gun fire.
242 individuals were held hostage at gunpoint.
1992–1993 (44 Homicides and 55 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1993–1994 (42 Homicides and 51 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1994–1995 (17 Homicides and 20 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1995–1996 (29 Homicides and 35 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1996–1997 (23 Homicides and 25 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1997–1998 (35 Homicides and 40 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1998–1999 (25 Homicides from school shootings in the U.S.)
1999–2000 (25 Homicides from school shootings in the U.S.)
2000–2001 (19 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2001–2002 (4 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2002–2003 (14 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2003–2004 (29 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2004–2005 (20 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2005–2006 (5 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2006–2007 (38 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2007–2008 (3 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2008–2009 (10 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
That doesn't include the 3 massacres each in 2011 and 2012.
I should be thankful that none of my relatives live in or are educated in the US.
Maybe you know but the general population doesn't & they watch the news where they hear people talking about semi-auto assault rifle while seeing video of machine guns blazing away.With respect, don't lecture me on the difference between fully automatic and semi automatic firearms. I had been trained to use and was using military firearms before you were even conceived. I've served in the military for more years than you've been alive. I need no lecture from an 18 year old kid.
Just a difference of attitude, guess you guys don't mind begging the govt for the opportunity to own a gun or to check out your personal property to go fire a few rounds @ the range. Doesn't fly here.I wasn't calling any "simple semi-auto" rifle an "assault weapon". I don't know what weapons were used in this shooting.
I was making a general point about "proper" assault rifles. In the UK, you cannot under any circumstances own an automatic or semi-auto. In the US, it is possible to own an automatic or semi-auto. I struggle to see why anyone would require such a firearm without a damn good reason? (certain jobs excluded).
The UK has some of the toughest gun control laws in the world. If you want to own a gun, it is very difficult to do so. In short, it has been designed to put as many barriers in the way as possible and to assume the worst, rather than hope for the best.
In the United States, you can declare that it is your constitutional right to bear arms. But in the UK, you need to spend hours filling in paperwork and proving that you are not a danger to society.
The current dictator wanna-be will probably try. IF someone was armed it might have been stopped.Well put,however. Nothing will change.
It is their right to bear arms!.
No President would dare touch that right.
Some are saying."if the teachers were armed" this could have been prevented.
This group is known to falsefy data.I'm saying nothing, just make up your own mind as to whether there are too many firearms in the USA.
The highest crime areas in the US are the ones with the strongest gun controll.Ah yes, the typical yank response when you can't provide anything to support your arguements and want to avoid answering the questions put to you.
I guess you'll need to continue to live with the consequences of regular massacres then. I just wouldn't go expecting much sympathy from the rest of the world until you get your house in order (like the rest of the civilised world).
Just a difference of attitude, guess you guys don't mind begging the govt for the opportunity to own a gun or to check out your personal property to go fire a few rounds @ the range. Doesn't fly here.
Proof that the Gun Free School Zone Act is useless other than providing a pool of defenceless victims. Repeal it now.
Just a difference of attitude, guess you guys don't mind begging the govt for the opportunity to own a gun or to check out your personal property to go fire a few rounds @ the range. Doesn't fly here.
The highest crime areas in the US are the ones with the strongest gun controll.
Feel free to invite him to run your counrty after 2016, good riddance. No one is turned away from a hospital, they have to be treateed. ObamaCare isn't "free" health care, just another step on wrecking the system so the Socialist wankers can take controll of it. If Canada & the UK's system is so great why do so many with serious problems come here????? Can't see how national bankruptcy is benifitial.Most of "you guys" don't feel the need to own one, or even fire one. No need to beg the government. They will simply tell us where to shove our application, you'd need a VERY good reason to even be allowed to apply for weapon ownership in the UK, and as far as I understand it - the rest of Europe isn't all that different.
As for your dictator wanna-be. I assume you mean President Obama? That man, in my opinion, is the breath of fresh air your country needed. After the catastrophe that was The Shrub. He's doing the country a service by pushing for free health care for all people. So, he's not getting rid of the debt, so what? That shouldn't be the highest on the agenda, that's the rich-man's agenda. Obama's all about the underdog, and therefore is focusing his attention on the social problems - gun control, people having to sell everything they own to pay for life-saving surgery? That's not "The American Dream", that's abhorrent, and as a people, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
The rich live in mansions while the sick and dying are turned away from hospitals (whose duty it is to provide care and save lives) because they can't pay the bill? Disgusting.
More brilliant observations, not. Crime is higher in high gun controll areas & less in low gun controll areas, so you want to tighten controlls, brilliant again! The guns are there, creating "No gun" areas just creates unarmed victims for armed criminals who already are banned from having guns, banning everyone else won't change that. Repeal the Act & give them a chanceThat's what happens when firearms are so readily available...
Here's a suggestion, perhaps severely restrict access to firearms.
Yes, and probably explains why we rarely have massacres?
So your control laws aren't strict enough then?
I have a question, perhaps it's a stupid one, but I'll ask it anyway.
Why are guns such an important thing in the United States? As Captiva said, "the right to bear arms" is obviously something Americans value highly. Why is this?
You're not under threat of invasion from anyone... you're not fighting a civil war anymore... I realise that most people own a gun to stop home invasions, etc. But come on - what's wrong with switching that M-16 or pistol for a Louisville slugger?
Far less people die from being hit with a baseball bat (unless of course you beat the crap out of them with it...)
I don't understand the feeling of a right and it seems like it's almost a need to own a gun... Feel free to tear me to shreds - just a question.
Feel free to invite him to run your counrty after 2016, good riddance. No one is turned away from a hospital, they have to be treateed. ObamaCare isn't "free" health care, just another step on wrecking the system so the Socialist wankers can take controll of it. If Canada & the UK's system is so great why do so many with serious problems come here????? Can't see how national bankruptcy is benifitial.
More brilliant observations, not. Crime is higher in high gun controll areas & less in low gun controll areas, so you want to tighten controlls, brilliant again! The guns are there, creating "No gun" areas just creates unarmed victims for armed criminals who already are banned from having guns, banning everyone else won't change that. Repeal the Act & give them a chance
By the way the Constitution not only says the Right to keep arms shall not be infringed(Lots of people can't grasp what shall not be infringed means) but the acompanying Fed. Militia Act of 1790 requires all males(currently women also) of military age to own the equivelent of the long arm currently in use by the US Army. Law is still on the books & is updated since women Officers of the National Guard are listed as exempt from the requirement.
Who do you think commits the murders? foriegners?I have another question - in the United States, just how afraid are you of your fellow citizens that you feel the need to own a weapon? I mean really, they're your fellow citizens...
I have another question - in the United States, just how afraid are you of your fellow citizens that you feel the need to own a weapon? I mean really, they're your fellow citizens...
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