Would China go to war for N.Korea?




 
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November 18th, 2004  
Brotchador
 
 

Topic: Would China go to war for N.Korea?


In the event of war between the north and south korea, would china again risk going against another coalition lead by the U.S.?

Where do you think ASEAN side with?

IMHO, China would not risk going to war at this stage or in the next 5-10 years, they know that they still could not match American power. and besides, what is there to gain in depending Kim?
November 18th, 2004  
MadeInChina
 
true, i wouldnt trust giving him the nuke tech, its like hitler in control of USA..

if south korea invades north korea withouth the us army, china would welcome that

if south korea invades with the help of the good ol us army, then china will definetly invade because thats just a sick feeling for china to have the us army tagging along in an asian incident...

either way goes, chinas the winner
November 18th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
South Korea will never invade, North Korea will have to light the fire.

As for the question posed..... I really don't know. China is nationalist first, not communist. I'm not so certain China would risk a rise in power for it's pathetic neighbor. Perhaps if North Korea is on the verge of absolute destruction, then maybe.
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November 18th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by 2ndShockarmy
true, i wouldnt trust giving him the nuke tech, its like hitler in control of USA..

if south korea invades north korea withouth the us army, china would welcome that

if south korea invades with the help of the good ol us army, then china will definetly invade because thats just a sick feeling for china to have the us army tagging along in an asian incident...

either way goes, chinas the winner
What if it were a 3 way cooperative effort between SK, PRC and USA?

I can probably guess -- everybody in that list would never ever trust somebody else involved. The USA and China would not likely trust each other and South Korea would want Chinese troops anywhere near their borders, period.

So we end up with an impossible situation -- Only by involving all three would we likely be able to work something out. South Korea doesn't trust China. The USA doesn't trust China either. China is either too arrogant or too paranoid to allow the USA to be involved -- and that's an absolute prerequisite before SK gets involved (so the USA is there to keep China from springing any unpleasant surprises in the scenario) ...

So there's only one thing left. China will have to do it themselves or its never going to happen. And if that did happen ... you're looking at a whole lotta nervousness in Seoul until the PLA withdraws. If nothing ever happens, that stupid maniac will probably set off a nuclear war sometime in the future....

Messy, no?
November 18th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 

Topic: Re: Would China go to war for N.Korea?


If China entered the war?
And if ASEAN got involved (though I doubt it) it would be against China. They're battling over the rights for the Spratleys and also control of the South China sea.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brotchador
In the event of war between the north and south korea, would china again risk going against another coalition lead by the U.S.?

Where do you think ASEAN side with?

IMHO, China would not risk going to war at this stage or in the next 5-10 years, they know that they still could not match American power. and besides, what is there to gain in depending Kim?
November 18th, 2004  
Kane
 
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IMHO, China would not risk going to war at this stage or in the next 5-10 years, they know that they still could not match American power. and besides, what is there to gain in depending Kim?
From what the Conservative Republicans stress upon, the US military is too far stretched to other nations for deployment. If war breaks out between S. Korea and N. Korea, China is more likely to take the upper hand because of fresh and determined troops, lessons learned from the Korean War, acquisition of new weapons, and also numeric superiority.

However, I doubt that the fourth Generation Chinese Leadership is anxious to pour troops into the Korean Peninsula. Knowing that Kim is driving the Bush Administration nuts, Mr. Hu wisely chose to put pressure on Kim to back down and prevent a war that can seriously damage China's economic growth.
November 18th, 2004  
playstation60
 

Topic: My voice


Awesome question, by the way. I am currently writing a military series of novels, that involves China, both North and South Korea, as well as the U.S. There are a few other countries involved, but I'll leave them out, to keep up the suspense, lol.

I think that if war were to break out between the North and the South, China would get involved, if it felt it had something to gain. I don't think it would willingly enter into the contest, knowing full well that the U.S. will be helping out the South, at least at some point. Numeric superiority or not, we've proven time and again that we've got the stuff to get the job done, or at least we did 60 years ago.

Strategically, what does China have to gain from entering into the war, other than keeping the U.S. away from it's boarders?



Ben
November 18th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
playstation60, I really hope one day I can buy a book from your novels in shops

My 2 cents:

1. Keep in mind, although most Chinese don't agree how Kim rules his country, but still China is N.Korea's Ally.

2. First I don't think S.Korea will invade North.

3. Second N.Korea will definitely NOT invade S.Korea, since ALL N.Koreans know S.Korea is far far better in all aspects, they will have NO single chance to win the war, NO SINGLE chance, I repeat, therefore Kim and his commanders will not act crazy at all, hence no war.

4. Now, what left is: what kind of event can trigger a war in Korea *****ula? I think only IF USA starts to attack N.K's nuclear facilities. In case US strikes, what will N.Korea react? They will ONLY bomb Seoul, that's ALL, they will not cross their troops into S.Korea, since see point (3), they have NO single chance to win so they will not go All Out War.

5. After above 4 points, we can conclude that in Korea there will not a significant war at all, hence Chinese troops will NOT be involved in it at all, simply because it is not necessary, since USA and S.Korea will not invade N.Korea at all.
November 18th, 2004  
playstation60
 

Topic: what if


What if South Korea were to take things into their own hands, and decide to take care of the nuclear issue in North Korea themselves? Or act at the behest of the U.S., or what it believes to be the U.S.'s wishes?

I agree that the North Koreans would probably have to pull out the perverbially rabbit out of their hat to win a war against the south, but for reasons for the to invade, what about the demoralizing conditions existing in the North. Look at how Hilter was able to convince drawing up arms and invading the surrounding countries before WWII.


Ben


P.S. Thanks for that about the books. I am eager to get things rolling with them myself. Lots of research still to go through.
November 18th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
1. S.Korea will NEVER take things into their own hands to deal with N.K.'s nuke thing or any other thing. S.Korea will only be happy if they got NOTHING to do with North. Please ask 13th Redneck, this dude is from S.Korea, he will tell you what S.Koreans thing about the whole issue.

2. N.Korea can not be compared with Nazi Germany. Kim does not have got the stuff what Hitler got in his mind. Btw, now This Day is the day of 21th century, cannot be compared with the days of 70 years ago. N.Korea does not have the abilitiy to wage a Total War, we should never OVER-estimate NK. But of course, we should not underestimate them either, since it will be extremely hard to invade N.Korea, they are good in defence, and they got the guts to fight to death.