Worst Moment in Your Country's Millitary History - Page 14




 
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May 29th, 2011  
MikeP
 
 
My Lai 1969
May 30th, 2011  
Metin
 
By the end of the WWI, all ottoman forces out of today's Turkey borders were ordered to surrender. Passibly it's the worst.

1402 Battle of Ankara, between brothers. Turk against Turk. Actually it was a warning to stop cultural shift...

12 September 1982. Military coup. Caused nearly 200.000 people die. It stopped the socialist and counter-socialist activities. (counter socialist one is exceptionally interesting though, racist and fundamentalist, even Marx couldn't figure out what it was...)
May 30th, 2011  
muscogeemike
 
The election and re-election of Bill Clinton was the most dishonorable day for the US Military; the worst day could have been the election of Jimmy Carter.
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June 11th, 2011  
r.fox
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
Hmm well after much thought I will go with Monte Casino, repeated attacks on a well defended target with little if any strategic goal. It was a battle that showed Freybergs weaknesses as a commander something that I think should have become apparent after the Crete debarcle.

Essentially Galipoli while a defeat gave us a national identity, Crete wasnt pretty but in the scheme of things wasnt unexpected but all Casino gave us was a war grave.
agreed. charging up a hill towards a bombed out building-when did that EVER work, just ask the Germans about Stalingrad
June 11th, 2011  
Del Boy
 
Yes, but what exactly makes it a candidate for worst moment in your history? I never considered it as holding any disgrace but as a very fierce proposition- have I missed something?
Non-confrontational question from someone with close relatives on both sides, with one survivor (senior and British).
June 13th, 2011  
r.fox
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Boy
Yes, but what exactly makes it a candidate for worst moment in your history? I never considered it as holding any disgrace but as a very fierce proposition- have I missed something?
okay well then i would have to say the Gallipoli evacuation. running from a bit of land that we had gained with the blood of soldiers on what they thought was a "great adventure" (after the hopeless leadership of the Generals may i add) was extremly shamefull
June 15th, 2011  
Strauss
 
As far as my danish-millitary history knowledge reaches, it would most definately be when the Nazi's army walked across the borders to Denmark.. As far as I recall there were only 14 danish soldiers fighting them, and they surrendered in less than 10 hours (understandable though).

It was not that the soldiers did not want to fight, I have been told that the soldiers guarding the waters sourrounding Denmark could easily have sunk alot of the german ships when they sailed uphere, but they were ordered by the "higher ups" to stand down, it was an extremely frustrating and demoralizing moment for the soldiers.
June 15th, 2011  
GHR
 
 
German losses on the occupation of Denmark on 9 April 1940 was 203 dead. 16 on the Danish side. 20 soldiers were wounded.

The Germans lost four tanks, 12 armored cars and several cars and motorcycles were damaged or destroyed. The total Danish force which saw action were 1,900 men.

The Navy and the government believed that resistance was futile. The army represented by the General Prior wanted to continue fighting and urged the king and the government to continue the fight. The king refused. The threat of bombing of Copenhagen, like the Germans inflicted on Warsaw in 1939, contributed to the choice to stop the fight.
June 15th, 2011  
84RFK
 
 
I'd say the Danish ground troops did put up a rather decent oposition against the invaders, at least when you consider the lack of will to fight on the political level, and that Denmark is a nightmare for a defender.
June 15th, 2011  
Del Boy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by r.fox
okay well then i would have to say the Gallipoli evacuation. running from a bit of land that we had gained with the blood of soldiers on what they thought was a "great adventure" (after the hopeless leadership of the Generals may i add) was extremly shamefull
Thank you. But I was not disregarding your first choice, and Monty B's of course, but I was intrigued, and I readily accept that MontyB and yourself are well versed on the subject; I must brush up.

Apologies for not making myself clear.