Worst Current Issue Weapon(Rifle or Pistol) - Page 16




 
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October 1st, 2004  
doddsy2978
 
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Originally Posted by SHERMAN
I dont know about fiddeling around with the selector in the middle of a firefight....
Fiddling with?? It should become second nature - surely?
October 1st, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
No the Americans are just specially spoiled lol

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Originally Posted by doddsy2978

Blimey! The British Army are taught 'ammunition conservation', in other words, use as few rounds as is required to do the job. Are Americans not taught the same? Is this coz we are a poor nation nowadays?
October 1st, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
No Berreta. Desert Eagle in .50 or .44 mag? Kids are we watchin to many action movies?
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October 1st, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
Berreta Desert Eagle in .50 or .44 mag? Kids are we watchin to many action movies?
My thought exactly. They think just because it's got a bigger bullet or more powerful bullet it's neccessarilly better.
It's just not the case!!!!!!
It's about as retarded as loading your ship of the line with so much cannon, ammunition and boarding party that you can't even fire off one row of the cannons or else the ship would flip. Sure it looks bloody impressive on the specifications with your ship out-everythinging everything out there except in speed but it becomes impractical.
Most engagements happen under 200m. If the performance of the 5.56mm is pretty much equal with the 7.62mm at these ranges but it actually even has better penetrating power, then why go for 7.62mm which is just plain heavier to lug around? Get the 5.56mm. How often are you expected to make a shot at 800m?
THINK guys!
And don't tell me to "work out and get stronger" because then you've obviously never lugged around a heavy load at 110 degrees farenheit through a virtual steam bath. Running in that sort of weather with NOTHING but light clothes is hard enough.
October 1st, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Roger that 13th. While we are at it lets address (again) automatic / burst fire.
You need to remember that while auto fire looks really cool in the movies. In real life ya got what you humped in. Your basic combat load out. Run out ooops.

I can't speak for the U.S. Army but the USMC teaches aimmed fire. Really their kinda **** about it. The whole Rifleman thing.
October 1st, 2004  
doddsy2978
 
Yeah 03 - I said this earlier 'ammunition conservation'.
October 1st, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Yeah the automatic fire has been kept by some countries only when the fighting gets ridiculously close (i.e. inside trenches, perhaps also buildings and the sort.)
Basically at that point, the assault rifles are used in a role that was traditionally left to submachine guns. Assault rifles with their more controllable (compared to the heavy rifle bullets!) ammunition can do the work of submachine guns and rifles.... with pretty good results.
But in a shoot out, yeah, you want to aim. That goes without question. Not to mention if you have it on full auto and you don't aim and the first round doesn't it, chances are neither will the rest of the bullets you fired off. In which case you just waste ammo and get shot and die.
October 2nd, 2004  
Lil Hulk 1988
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
I can't speak for the U.S. Army but the USMC teaches aimmed fire. Really their kinda **** about it. The whole Rifleman thing.
Kind of ****, that is truly an understatement....and if I get into a trench, the grenade goes in first and a nice flechlette round in the 203.
October 2nd, 2004  
Kinection
 
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In Iraq they shouldn't use beretta, its a disgrace for a soldier, what you really need in is a desert eagle .50 cal or at least a .44 . 3 shots from a beretta couldn't bring an idiot down,but 3 shot from either of desert eagles can. Also at least one man in a squad should have a backpack-fed
Xm-314 minigun, it takes a while to fire but his squad mates can defend him while it starts to fire and then he'll unleash h**l.
You're joking right? Desert Eagle? Xm-314?

You may want to read this: http://world.guns.ru/machine/minigun-e.htm especially the hollywood vs. common sense section.

“The best reason for carrying a handgun is so you can fight your way back to the rifle that you should have had in the first place.”- John Farnam

That means that your handgun should be for one, easy to reach, reliable, quick, etc. The Desert Eagle is a huge gun holding 7+1 (.50AE) definitly not fit as a handgun.
October 2nd, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
The guy who carried the minigun in Predator was none other than Jesse, the Body Ventura