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This is why I support CCW
 
April 18th, 2007  
senojekips
 
 
This is why I support CCW
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Originally Posted by Rabs
No, it is a matter of common sense.

College kids dont need to have guns like mmarsh said. It is a high stress high emotion enviorment, and we dont need a bunch kids running around with guns. Were every fist fight someone pulls out a gun and starts blasting. I'm good on my campus becoming a wild west saloon.
I'm about as pro Gun as you'll get, but this post above just about sums it all up. Why might I ask do College kids need guns on campus? Hopefully they are there to study. What is this, The Wild freakin' West?

Next it will be guns in Hospitals, libraries, and Ice cream parlours.

I could just imagine it, every student with their 9mm (just an example,.... I know some of you young bucks wouldn't be seen dead with less than a Mac10) on their hip. It wouldn't be long before someone decided to reinforce his point by drawing his weapon, next minute you have an "all in gunfight" as everyone "defends themselves".

Ridiculous you say,.... Bullsh1t!!!, it would be just be a matter of time.

Weapons are great, but they have a place and a time.
April 18th, 2007  
Rob Henderson
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
I'm about as pro Gun as you'll get, but this post above just about sums it all up. Why might I ask do College kids need guns on campus? Hopefully they are there to study. What is this, The Wild freakin' West?

Next it will be guns in Hospitals, libraries, and Ice cream parlours.

I could just imagine it, every student with their 9mm (just an example,.... I know some of you young bucks wouldn't be seen dead with less than a Mac10) on their hip. It wouldn't be long before someone decided to reinforce his point by drawing his weapon, next minute you have an "all in gunfight" as everyone "defends themselves".

Ridiculous you say,.... Bullsh1t!!!, it would be just be a matter of time.

Weapons are great, but they have a place and a time.
College kids need guns on campus so crap like this won't happen. If students had been allowed guns, they could have killed this b@st@rd in his tracks. They are there to study, but in the event that another nutjob comes around like this, then they can defend themselves because obviously if it took the authorities 2 hours to arrive, they aren't competent. Now, when a student pulls his gun to prove his point, well...The student that got the gun pulled on them eliminates the threat by any means...Tackling...Pulling his own gun...Calling campus police, hoping they have an adequate response time...
April 18th, 2007  
b2ee
 
 
Some questions from me, as one outsider. Which guy can help me clarify it?

All know, it is legally in U.S for people to have guns, but what is the exact and special meanning for individual U.S people to have a gun,saftey or some kind of freedom? maybe there exists some historical reason. Who can explain it to me? Thanks very much.
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This is why I support CCW
April 18th, 2007  
Rabs
 
 
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All know, it is legally in U.S for people to have guns, but what is the exact and special meanning for individual U.S people to have a gun,saftey or some kind of freedom? maybe there exists some historical reason. Who can explain it to me? Thanks very much.
It is in our constitution under the second amendment of the bill of rights. The nation was born through warfare mainly through an armed populace, so it is cultural. This debate however is if college KIDS being allowed to have guns on campus is a good thing.
April 18th, 2007  
b2ee
 
 
It is very hard for me to imagine that every kid has a gun in one college campus just like Iraq's battlefield, maybe somepeople can says they can protect themselves better if so. So funny logic.
April 18th, 2007  
phoenix80
 
 
they should have armed the security agents on campus. it could have prevented the whole thing.
April 18th, 2007  
Rabs
 
 
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It is very hard for me to imagine that every kid has a gun in one college campus just like Iraq's battlefield, maybe somepeople can says they can protect themselves better if so. So funny logic.
I'm in agreement with a red, my my how the times have changed :P
April 18th, 2007  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by Rabs
I'm in agreement with a red, my my how the times have changed :P
Hehe now you know how the rest of us feel, you go through life thinking you are a centerist until you run into the far right and become the left wing.

Go figure.

besides he could be a right wing red which would make him more a purple.

April 18th, 2007  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by C/1Lt Henderson
College kids need guns on campus so crap like this won't happen. If students had been allowed guns, they could have killed this b@st@rd in his tracks. They are there to study, but in the event that another nutjob comes around like this, then they can defend themselves because obviously if it took the authorities 2 hours to arrive, they aren't competent. Now, when a student pulls his gun to prove his point, well...The student that got the gun pulled on them eliminates the threat by any means...Tackling...Pulling his own gun...Calling campus police, hoping they have an adequate response time...
That is your opinion, and you are most welcome to it. Personally I think your lack of life experience is showing badly, given time you may grow out of it.

I take it that you also advocate that all citizens should carry firearms as they go about their daily business, just in case some nutter decides to shoot someone?

Remember,.... They woke up to the shortcomings of that idea over 100 years ago when they stopped people carrying guns in town. The rate of violent deaths dropped immediately. There's a lesson there somewhere if you care to look.

It is thinking such as yours, that will eventually lead to the banning of many types of firearms altogether. As I said firearms have a place and time. Education facilities are certainly not the place.

If these incidents happen too regularly, believe me, second amendment or not, ownership of firearms will become more and more restricted.
April 18th, 2007  
Rob Henderson
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
That is your opinion, and you are most welcome to it. Personally I think your lack of life experience is showing badly, given time you may grow out of it.

I take it that you also advocate that all citizens should carry firearms as they go about their daily business, just in case some nutter decides to shoot someone?

Remember,.... They woke up to the shortcomings of that idea over 100 years ago when they stopped people carrying guns in town. The rate of violent deaths dropped immediately. There's a lesson there somewhere if you care to look.

It is thinking such as yours, that will eventually lead to the banning of many types of firearms altogether. As I said firearms have a place and time. Education facilities are certainly not the place.

If these incidents happen too regularly, believe me, second amendment or not, ownership of firearms will become more and more restricted.
There we go, because you have so much more life experience than me when it comes to dealing with random South Korean shooters, right?Anyway, the idea is that citizens have the CHOICE to be armed or not. Not that everybody will be armed, but no one knows who's armed and who isn't. That caution would stop a lot of crime. Now, my thinking...OK, it may lead to banning of firearms altogether, but will that stop those who still want to get them?


Again, just because ownership of firearms is restricted, doesn't mean those who don't want them bad enough won't be able to find them.
 


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