Venezuela to Replace U.S. F-16 Fighters With Russian Su-35s - Page 3




 
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May 5th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by Justice
F-16vsSU-35 is like an F-22vsMiG21... He is actually upgrading and getting hardware from a reliable source with no attached conditions vs the U.S which has so many strings attached... He is getting the best buck for his money can't blame the guy he is smart
The SU-35's will have to deal with F-22's. The F-16's will destroy the remainder of the SU-35's on the ground.
May 6th, 2012  
Yossarian
 
 
If I was VZ, I'd opt for a comprehensive air defense Grid.

Planes are expensive, and unless they have plans to invade one of their neighbors I don't see the point in buying so many.

If the U.S. wants in, they will get in, for a police action or all out war. Each plane lost per capita is more than for say a mobile S 300 platform.

And if all else you can stash S 300s all over the place while planes are restricted to air bases.

This would be important in a defensive situation against the U.S. because the USAF has been blowing up enemy planes on the ground since 1941.
May 6th, 2012  
hamidreza
 
the priority of purchasing or making of weapons is depended on the defense politics. For example about Iran spending a lot of money to buy for example 200 SU T-50 or F22 or the same developed planes ( Although they will never sell those to us) is not a good decision when they could spend 10% of this money to have a developed air defense system like S300(Although the same as the planes they will never sell them to us too). you cant do anything with 200 planes when you are attacked by 2500 planes. at this situation having a good air defense grid is not enough but a least is better than plane. Or the cheap but fast high speed patrol boat is the best weapon for Iran against the US developed navy instead of buying expensive warship.these boat attack like a group of bee who attack to a bear.
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May 6th, 2012  
03USMC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hamidreza
. Or the cheap but fast high speed patrol boat is the best weapon for Iran against the US developed navy instead of buying expensive warship.these boat attack like a group of bee who attack to a bear.
And gives USN CWiS operators and Gunners Mates wet dreams.
May 7th, 2012  
hamidreza
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
And gives USN CWiS operators and Gunners Mates wet dreams. 1 Day Ago 15:23
I am sure you don't know anything about war.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8DC3R920120212
May 7th, 2012  
03USMC
 
 
Whats your point a press release from Admiral Fox saying that the USN has a wide range of options to deal with the threat?
May 7th, 2012  
42RM
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hamidreza
I am sure you don't know anything about war.


About 03USMC

Time in Service: Approx. 17 years

Service Abroad: OPERATION JUST CAUSE, OPERATION DESERT SHIELD, OPERATION DESERT STORM, OPERATION RESTORE HOPE, OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM


No, the man has no idea what he's talking about.
You need a reboot - Your ass is set as default.
May 7th, 2012  
hamidreza
 
Yes he has said that the USN has a wide range of options to deal with the threat and absolutely nobody expect him to say that we can't do anything or we cant deal with this problem or the same things (at least with media).
But if you pay attention to his saying you can find that the subject is not as easy as you thought.
"Some of the small boats have been outfitted with a large warhead that could be used as a suicide explosive device"
"We are very vigilant, we have built a wide range of options to give the president and we are ready... What if it happened tonight? We are ready today."
And just the Iranian small boats were close to the US navy. the movies are on internet. So why didn't you dare to shoot them?
May 7th, 2012  
RayManKiller3
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hamidreza
Yes he has said that the USN has a wide range of options to deal with the threat and absolutely nobody expect him to say that we can't do anything or we cant deal with this problem or the same things (at least with media).
But if you pay attention to his saying you can find that the subject is not as easy as you thought.
"Some of the small boats have been outfitted with a large warhead that could be used as a suicide explosive device"
"We are very vigilant, we have built a wide range of options to give the president and we are ready... What if it happened tonight? We are ready today."
And just the Iranian small boats were close to the US navy. the movies are on internet. So why didn't you dare to shoot them?

To keep from escalating tensions. You would also need to explain how close they got to it. You are only allowed a certain amount of space close to U.S ships before being fired on. You should flash yourself back to how well U.S handled Iran's navy during Iraq-Iran war before thinking Speedboats are going to be entirely successful.
May 7th, 2012  
Der Alte
 
Outside of surprise (a la the USS Cole), the small boat "record" since World War II fails to live up to the modern-day hype. Certainly, small boats are not things to completely disregard, but I do have serious doubts about the danger a swarm poses to a prepared US vessel. The proof just ainít there. Once a fast boat swarm is identified as "hostile," those small boats tend to lead relatively short, exciting lives. In 1987, U.S. helicopters made quick work of Boghammar speedboats, and during the 1991 Bubiyan Turkey Shoot, helicopters helped sink or damage 143 small Iraqi naval vessels.

However much we may disapprove of the Iranian government and its policies, moreover, one of the inconveniences that we must simply accept is that, for various reasons, it is a force to be reckoned with. It has a population of just under 70 million. It is located in a geopolitically significant position. It sits on a lot of oil. And there are important international actors who do not agree with the view that it can be (or should be) brought to heel by military means, including a few who think that the way it does its politics is in accord with the preferences of God, as well as being perfectly understandable in the light of its twentieth-century historical experience. All of this is tiresome, no doubt, but it does suggest that responding to the challenges that Iran poses to western interests may require a more nuanced array of responses.