U.S. Guerilla tactics - Page 2




 
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December 11th, 2004  
egoz
 
i think in a situation where the US was being occupied Congress would have no other choice but to stomach the possible casualties and give it the full effort of the US.

now, let's say someone were to occupy the US. in a country where the citizens have the right to bear arms and nearly 1/3 of all guns in the world are located in the US, i wonder how chaotic that would get? we can't assume all gun owners are trained properly to use their firearms, and we definitely can't assume they will be effective in countering any insurgency. would the citizens completely leave all fighting up to the military and police even though they have the right to defend themselves also? how would domestic terrorists act, like the white supremacy groups? would they see it as their chance to get what they want? this isn't 1776 anymore and allowing militias to rise up could cause more problems. this isn't just a matter of an external forces occupying the US, there are internal enemies as well that could aid either side. it's almost sounding like the fall of rome.

i think this is a really good topic because it puts first world citizens in the shoes of the citizens of the countries that we currently occupy. at the same time it seems very unrealistic. the forces needed to occupy the US would have to be enormous, just look at what we need to occupy Iraq.
December 14th, 2004  
EuroSpike
 

Topic: Re: Occupation


"To some, not saying me, our lack of control over the insurgents could signify a lack of understanding of guerilla warfare, and I was curious to see what everyone thought would be possible from our country, given it has been taken over, and how effective we'd be able to fight."

The idea of the guerilla warfare is to strike suddenly when unexpected and cause casualties and damage, then as suddenly disappear before enemy reacts. Guerilla the invisible enemy.

"now, let's say someone were to occupy the US. in a country where the citizens have the right to bear arms and nearly 1/3 of all guns in the world are located in the US, i wonder how chaotic that would get? we can't assume all gun owners are trained properly to use their firearms, and we definitely can't assume they will be effective in countering any insurgency."

Lot of weapons in citizens hands cause only problems to invader. Should consider twice is it wice to invade a country full of armed and angry people along defending army.
December 14th, 2004  
Anya1982
 
 
Urban warfare is a different story to a normal war obv. people will know this.

Uk has a long history with urban warfare, just look at N.ire

I know we ain't "the best" but we certainly do have alot of training and experience. I know the uk mil. has started more training on us mil for our urban warfare and our RF(Response force aka close protection training for the navy) as the us mil lack this. Not due to anything bad just uk mil have more experience.

So america having nato help and training would ready them. I'm not to sure how america would deal with an invasion this day and age, but then again how would any one know how to deal with it unless its happened to them?

So please people don't bite my head off over this as certain ppl have before.
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December 14th, 2004  
playstation60
 

Topic: Keep it coming


Thanks for all the input thus far. Keep it coming. All opinions are welcome. The invasion is the heart of my story. A response by the U.S. is the key to the second and possibly third novel in the series. I am very interested in what options are available.



Keep it comin'
December 17th, 2004  
AussieNick
 
Question would be, would the resitance be iraq style, in the cities with road side bombs etc, or would it be Viet Cong style, controlling the countryside, allowing the invader to hold the cities and main roads, but not letting them rest.
December 17th, 2004  
CABAL
 
 
Remember, according to historical context of the American Revolution, the "Swamp Fox" was a brilliant Guerilla Fighter.
December 17th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
The USA would be a pretty stupid place to try to conquer and occupy. Too many of its citizens have their own guns. Would be conquerers would catch hell the moment they piss of the American People. No, American's aren't likely to repeated bomb/target other Americans. They would target the invaders.
December 17th, 2004  
CABAL
 
 
That is not a smart comment, but I understand where you are trying to get to. The United States is a very difficult nation to conquer and to occupy. It is demonstrated perfectly in the War of 1812 when the United States was under seige by a militarily superior Great Britain. However, there are two factors that have ended this war. Negotiations/Agreements and General Andrew Jackson's overwhelming victory in the Defense of New Orleans (However that battle occured after the peace terms)