Tom Gross on the forgotten Rachels




 
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Boots
 
September 4th, 2011  
benaakatz
 
 

Topic: Tom Gross on the forgotten Rachels


http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/TheForgottenRachels.html
September 5th, 2011  
MontyB
 
 
Once again we are back to the same old argument that two wrongs don't make a right and oddly enough even if you scale up the number of wrongs it still doesn't make a right.

Who was better Joseph Stalin or Adolf Hitler, would you prefer a job hunting for mines with a hammer or checking the temperature of nuclear reactor cores with a rectal thermometer?

But in terms of Israel and Palestine it is becoming easier and easier to support the Palestinian cause simply because of Israels strange desire to go overboard about everything and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I doubt there are too many here who are not beginning to see the lack of good faith negotiations from both sides.

Yes we know the Palestinians are killing Israeli civilians and it is wrong but Israel is killing Palestinians civilians too and is is equally wrong.
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Boots
September 5th, 2011  
senojekips
 
 
I dunno if you noticed Ben, but your last attempted trolling about a "solution" to the Israeli problem went without answer. The main reason being that we all know the answer, but we know that Israel has no desire to hear the truth or abide by the rules, so what is the sense of answering. It is essentially a criminal state with a thinly disguised criminal agenda.

In reply to this latest attempt to get sympathy for a self imposed problem. People are waking up, and it's all because of the attention bought upon Israel by this continuous and concerted pro Zionist propaganda. It is this pathetic and continuous lying and over reaction that is killing Israel's hopes of any sympathy and support, far better than any efforts by the Palestinians and their supporters.

Israel is living in the past, cheap movie cameras and easy access to the outside world via the internet has uncovered Israel's criminal activities and disabled their imposed censorship, the world can see what is going on and no amount of lies can cover or excuse their behavior.

The Answer


It Doesn't Work Any More
September 5th, 2011  
benaakatz
 
 
Still doesnt change the fact that there is no legitimate justification for killing civilians. It seems like according to you the palestinians can commit cold blooded murder and be let off the hook
September 5th, 2011  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benaakatz
Still doesnt change the fact that there is no legitimate justification for killing civilians. It seems like according to you the palestinians can commit cold blooded murder and be let off the hook
Oh, you mean like this,...
IDF Shoot Palestinian Farmer Harvesting Crop


Whoops,Sorry,... they were IDF if I'm not mistaken,... and they did it knowingly in front of a team of International observers.

I guess you are too young to know of the Stern Gang and others of their ilk, who actively committed terrorist acts against the mandated administrators of Palestine (Britain), in support of Israels theft of Palestinian land.

I thought that at least you would have had the common sense and decency to check how many Palestinian civilians have been killed by Israeli forces and "peaceful" settlers and compare it with the number of Israelis killed by the Palestinians. That alone would have shot the reasoning for your argument down in flames.

The Palestinians , like the French Marquis are merely resisting the occupation of what is legitimately theirs.

Remember?...
September 5th, 2011  
mmarsh
 
 
Senojekips

Its not completely his fault. The Media is the USA is largely controlled by pro-Israel sympathizers which effectively block out anything too critical of Israel. Annoying tidbits about how the Israeli military, security, and armed settlers (which are armed by the government) kill FAR more innocent Palestine civilians than visa versa don't make it the regular news. Of course if a single Israeli civilian is scratched by a Palestinian group we hear about it for 24/7.

The US media is so blatantly bias when it comes to its ME coverage you can actually get a more balanced picture of whats going on by reading the Jerusalem Post.
September 5th, 2011  
benaakatz
 
 
no offence, but that video looks staged. it says a farmer is shot. i watched the whole video. where was he shot?

and of course i know who the stern gang were. i know just as much history about this region as you do, i'm well read on authentic historians like benny morris. terrorism by dissident groups is not okay and i do not justify anything they did.
September 5th, 2011  
benaakatz
 
 
and i really cannot take anything you say seriously when you cite nir rosen:

for those who do not know some of the people seno cites read this article from jeff goldberg at the atlantic:

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...r-rosen/71378/

You cite people who espouse blatant hate, while I am a moderate who wants both the israeli and palestinian peoples to have a state.
September 5th, 2011  
84RFK
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benaakatz
no offence, but that video looks staged. it says a farmer is shot. i watched the whole video. where was he shot?

and of course i know who the stern gang were. i know just as much history about this region as you do, i'm well read on authentic historians like benny morris. terrorism by dissident groups is not okay and i do not justify anything they did.

Let me guess....you watch Fox-News, right?
 


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