Young Winston
Banned
What a mess. Its time to go soon. History will not remember Bush kindly.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1012/p09s02-coop.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1012/p09s02-coop.html
Wait and see what history comes up with in the long run, and the person that wrote that article is taking a very simplistic view of the problems. She seems to think that if you quit before the job has been finished then thats okay, but what she does not realise that problem could then follow you home again
Thats precisely the arguement the Hawks used in their opposition in exiting Vietnam. That the US abandoning Vietnam would lead to a domino effect that would result in the entire Asian continent falling into the Communist hands. That scenario never happened. The truth is nobody can tell what will happen for sure what would happen.
One thing is for sure the current strategy isn't working.
I personally believe Al Qaeda will find no sanctury in Iraq. The country is most made up of Shiites who hate al Qaeda which is Sunni. Does anyone really think the Shiites will forgive and forget all the terror attacks that al-Qaeda sponsored? The Sunni and Shiite have been hating and killing each other for centuries. They hate each other more than they hate the us.
When the US leaves (and I think its only a matter of time) the Sunnis and Shiites will immediatly start killing each other. And the foreign Sunni insurgents will be the first Shiite targets.
There will NEVER be democracy in Iraq, for the simple reason that they dont want it.
we had no business being there and that we shouldn't have gotten involved.
And what exactly is and isn't our business?
I would describe it as:
"interfering in the domestic affairs of other nations, UNLESS when there is a direct and verifiable threat to our nation's security".
Well if France hadn't "interfered with our domestic affairs" we wouldn't even be a nation.
France was already at war with Britan, AND that British occupation of the USA did pose a serious security threat to French territories in the Lousiana Purchase. The French intervened in the Americas not just because they were sympathetic but because it suited their nations interests.
Well if France hadn't "interfered with our domestic affairs" we wouldn't even be a nation.
Senior Chief
Oh but there is a comparison, in both situations we (the American people) were conned into going there and that in reality we had no business being there and that we shouldn't have gotten involved.
If you honestly think we are going to win this one, you should read what happened to the British in Iraq, or the British in Afganistan, or the French in Algeria.
I DO think Iraq has made an HUGE impact on the war on terror and this most experts will agree with me:
Iraq had made the GWOT much, much, worse.
Ok then, we were already at war with Communism so that justifies Vietnam.
Thats a bit of a strech, I dont think you can declare a actual shooting war on a political ideology.
Nazism anyone?
Isn't that why we declared war on North Korea and North Vietnam?
They declared war because Germany was invading other countries
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