is taiwan a card in a U.S-China politic game?




 
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Boots
 
February 25th, 2005  
Sexybeast
 

Topic: is taiwan a card in a U.S-China politic game?


is taiwan a card in a U.S-China politic game?



taiwan's strategic location is so important that it looks like an unsinkable aircraft carrier to U.S

to china, taiwan is the door opening to the pacific for china, also , U.S will be able to threaten china's most rich regions near taiwan if one day , a total war break out between china and U.S.

is taiwan a card?

U.S will condemn taiwan a bit whenever they need some cooperation from china (like in north korean incident, it is not coincidence that Colin Powell went to beijing and say taiwan belongs to china in the first time for many years )

U.S wil also uses taiwan when they think it is time to test china a bit, or warn china a bit

wut do u think?
February 25th, 2005  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
As long as China doesn't start expanding, then I'm not really sure what strategic value Taiwan has, for both sides.
February 25th, 2005  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Its a bone of contention and a silly excuse for justifying confrontation between China and the USA.

Consider that no Taiwan thread has ever failed to end up locked. That is how pointless the discussion is.
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Boots
February 26th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
well guys and girls, lets have a breakthrough, lets not get this thread locked for once


i personally think that taiwan is a card to americans, but to the chinese it is very important, it is one of the land controled by rebels that has not been under chinese control yet.
February 26th, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AA
well guys and girls, lets have a breakthrough, lets not get this thread locked for once


i personally think that taiwan is a card to americans, but to the chinese it is very important, it is one of the land controled by rebels that has not been under chinese control yet.
it's a free and independant country. with it's own laws, economy and political system. and has been independant of china since the Nationalist left the mainland.

time to let it go
February 26th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
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February 27th, 2005  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AA
well guys and girls, lets have a breakthrough, lets not get this thread locked for once
Now that would be quite the breakthrough. You may be sincere, but it always gets ruined by somebody or another. Personally, I don't understand why tiny scrap of land triggers so much anger and hostility.
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i personally think that taiwan is a card to americans, but to the chinese it is very important, it is one of the land controled by rebels that has not been under chinese control yet.
Make no mistake about it, Taiwan is a card that China plays as well. The PRC government seems determined to charge the subject of Taiwan with as much passion and bitterness as possible. It has been 60 years since a Mainland Chinese government had any control over Taiwan, but because of Chaing Kaishek's arrogance and delusions, they never declared themselves to be a separate nation. Currently, there is an even split within the Taiwanese people: half wish to remain "officially" a part of China and half wish to declare indepence. Obviously, a substantial number of them have a lot of loyalty to their motherland.

The point at which the entire free world takes exception to the PRC's stance is simple. The PRC has stated that, "the people of Taiwan have no right to decide the matter for themselves." If we are talking about a circumstances of insurrection and rebellion similar to the Amercian Civil War, such a stand would seem valid. But in this case, you have a land and an people who have been a separate country in everthing but name since the PRC took control of the mainland. You have a land and people that has never bound itself to a government (the PRC) and agreed to submit to their authority. And the PRC has never established their control of Taiwan. They never were under the PRC's control, so we have a completely different situation from the American Civil War.

One bit of nonsense is that any move by Taiwan away from the Mainland is somehow a move towards them being dominated by the USA.

How long can the discussion last without being locked???
February 27th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
lol, but whos got a more reasonable claim than PRC ( cmon people, its called CHINA, OFFCIALLY CHINA, MODERN CHINA the onlyh china()

but if you want to do it the so-called american way ( democratically according to the people), then lets split the islandin half, one belong to china becuase half the people supportss KMT, and the other half could go to the rebels

but we get taipei and the nrothern area
February 27th, 2005  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AA
lol, but whos got a more reasonable claim than PRC ( cmon people, its called CHINA, OFFCIALLY CHINA, MODERN CHINA the onlyh china()

but if you want to do it the so-called american way ( democratically according to the people), then lets split the islandin half, one belong to china becuase half the people supportss KMT, and the other half could go to the rebels

but we get taipei and the nrothern area
Intesting plan, but wouldn't that just be contradictory? The PRC is crying out for reunification and reconciliation, so isn't that suggestion doing exactly the opposite thing. Since they are governed by a single government body currently, dividing them up would seem illogical.

I am surprised to see somebody speaking for China that is willing to be openminded about Taiwan though. Perhaps there is hope for meaningful discussion afterall.
February 28th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
please read my work again

it says if i was to use the american way


anyways, im for all taiwan and its chinese

besides, if china does atttack, whos got more right to attack

us and other countries has no right under any law to attack china for taking chinese territory under rebel control