I think you are right, but there is also a litle bit of this as well: Once I need you, I use you; once I do not need you any more I throw you to the garbage.

How dare us! How dare the United States use an evil dictator and then just topple him like some kind of... evil dictator.

Originally Posted by Whispering Death

How dare us! How dare the United States use an evil dictator and then just topple him like some kind of... evil dictator.

wow, you always use such a convencing arguments, talking with you is like talking to a wall. It looks like you never get the messeges of my post, I knew my english was bad, but not up to that point. I will tell you again, I was talking about how policy changes. How the interest of the countries(in this case US) doesn´t pay attention to who they form alliance with. I know things work like that, that international relations are based on interests, but this fact doesn´t mean that I have to accept it and think thats is the way things should be done

Suit yourself on what you want to believe, but it's not like Europe doesn't abide by the exact same rules. Amazing how fast our alliance died down without the Nazis nextdoor or the red menace on your doorstep.

Originally Posted by Whispering Death

Suit yourself on what you want to believe, but it's not like Europe doesn't abide by the exact same rules. Amazing how fast our alliance died down without the Nazis nextdoor or the red menace on your doorstep.

i think it has more to do with europe beiugn able to look after itself and with them disagreeing with US policy (at this point)...friends to disagree from time to time you know

During the 1980's, Iran posed more a threat to the United States then Iraq. I will use the cliche Iraq was the lesser of two evils. However, as soon as 1990 came around and Iraq invaded Kuwait, America and the United States had to step in and remove the threat that he had when he controlled Kuwait. Then after the war, his true evil came out with gas attacks on his own people. We tried to control him with sanctions but with constant violations he finally had to be removed from power in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Iran still poses a threat to American Security as it does with most of the world's non Islam population, but not as much as Iraq had when Saddam was in power.

Originally Posted by Whispering Death

Suit yourself on what you want to believe, but it's not like Europe doesn't abide by the exact same rules. Amazing how fast our alliance died down without the Nazis nextdoor or the red menace on your doorstep.

Excuse me, but in Spain the red menace was stopped only by Spanish people with the help of some allies during our civil war. US did not have anything to do here.

Originally Posted by thegrinch073

During the 1980's, Iran posed more a threat to the United States then Iraq. I will use the cliche Iraq was the lesser of two evils. However, as soon as 1990 came around and Iraq invaded Kuwait, America and the United States had to step in and remove the threat that he had when he controlled Kuwait. Then after the war, his true evil came out with gas attacks on his own people. We tried to control him with sanctions but with constant violations he finally had to be removed from power in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Iran still poses a threat to American Security as it does with most of the world's non Islam population, but not as much as Iraq had when Saddam was in power.

During the war against Iran Irak was using chemical wapons as well, and anybody said anything, so the evil came out many years before you say...Saddam aldo enjoyed killing Kurds in the 80s.

The Gulf war in the 90s was not a war betewen US and Irak, you have to remember that there was a UN resolution supporting the attack.

Originally Posted by staurofilakes

Excuse me, but in Spain the red menace was stopped only by Spanish people with the help of some allies during our civil war. US did not have anything to do here.

And by Allies I'll read Nazi Germany complete with Stukas and Storm Troops

exactly,Franco´s allies were germany and italy. But it was an superficial help. Most of the war effort was done by spanish people. Very different was the other side, were sovietis help was huge