Russian army bullying 'horrific'




 
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October 20th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 

Topic: Russian army bullying 'horrific'


International group Human Rights Watch has published a detailed study of what it calls "horrific violence" against new conscripts in the Russian army.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3756866.stm


Suicides increase in Russian army
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3931801.stm


Death rate high in Russian Army
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3106368.stm

Russia's rusting navy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/880220.stm
October 20th, 2004  
ravensword227
 
They are getting ready to bust some terrorist. As history shows, nobody messes with Russia and gets away with it. It doesnít matter if their soldiers are unequipped because they are determined destroy the types of murdering scum that kill innocent school children.
October 20th, 2004  
Trevor
 
The russian military is brutal. The spirit of the the red army still lives on in it.
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October 21st, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Armies are supposed to be brutal. It's stupid to pretend the nature of their work isn't and the nature of the people must match the nature of their work.
October 21st, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 
I say good for them. Get your asses in shape and reclaim some of your lost glory. You dont build killing machines by patting them on the back and giving them a treat.
October 21st, 2004  
SAINT
 
It's a bad culture of the Russian Army, I suppose
October 21st, 2004  
USAFAUX2004
 
 
Russia is in a decline, but hopefully soon will shoot back up
October 21st, 2004  
Young Winston
 
 
http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/Chechnya.asp


Well guys, itís interesting reading your comments about how tough the Russian Army ought to be and getting back their glory etc, etc.

Sure, armies have got to tough, well trained and highly disciplined. Unfortunately the Russian performance in Chechnya has been found wanting in the human rights area. To be a male of any age living in Grozny at the moment is a dangerous thing.

The subliminal message I get from some of you is that violating human rights and atrocities are OK if it is clouded in a war on terrorism.

Click on the above link and bone up on the Chechnya issue. There is no excuse for the Beslen murders but the Caucasus is becoming more and more a sink hole for terrorist fighters. The Russians have a mighty problem no matter how their tough their army is.

Saint, you really are soft on these guys!
October 21st, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 
My comment has to do with the training of the soldiers, nothing else. If they had better training they might have more pride and discipline to stray away from things like that.
October 21st, 2004  
rocco
 
i think its stupid, the russian army is just as bad as their jails, how can men be expected to fight when their spirit is gone.
my uncle was in the russian army, in Siberia, thats where it was the worst, people would kill you just for a snack and ure socks...people died left an right, moral must have been so low....
can you just imagine, you can either be treated like a dog and fight till the bitter end in a war, or just give up and be treated better in an enemy's prison camp,