The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe! - Page 49




 
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December 2nd, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
What kinds of "counterattacks"?
December 2nd, 2005  
Morten
 
 
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Originally Posted by gladius
First of all how do you know the US will even threaten the use of nukes to fight EMP? The US could issue that warning, it may work depends who is in charge, if it is a tough President then maybe, only maybe it will work. But that is a big IF.

What if they do use EMP anyways, do you really think the US will risk bombing them with nukes, when they can nuke New York or Chicago. I don't think the US will risk that no matter who is in charge. They simply won't.

The effect of EMP does not warrant the use of nuclear weapons. I don't see why the enemy will believe that the US will use nukes to strike back against EMP. So they will go ahead and use EMP anyways. The only time the US will use nukes for sure is if they send a terrorist to nuke one of our cities.
i do indeed believe that they'll do that... a laser capable of taking out a nuclear missile is already made!... the only bad thing about it is that the laser is so big and requires a heavy source of energy!.. but in a few years that laser will be alot smaller and even if it still requires alot of energy it wouldn't be a problem to use it as defense...

u said urself that they wouldn't risk a nuclear war... a warning should do the job... and if they still EMP, well, then Goodbye to them... :P

indeed it is some huge IF's... but this whole thread is basicly a huge if...
December 2nd, 2005  
gladius
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morten
i do indeed believe that they'll do that... a laser capable of taking out a nuclear missile is already made!... the only bad thing about it is that the laser is so big and requires a heavy source of energy!.. but in a few years that laser will be alot smaller and even if it still requires alot of energy it wouldn't be a problem to use it as defense...
I don't think you understand how EMP can be deployed.

That laser is made to take out a nuclear missle already inside or, upon re-entry inside the atmophere.

The EMP is made to be detonated in the upper extremes of the atmosphere making it harder to intercept than a regular nuclear missle which has to go into the atmosphere and down to earth.

Furthermore, one EMP has the range of an entire continent, so it could be effectively detonated over international waters or out of the range of the laser or ABM and still affect it target.


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u said urself that they wouldn't risk a nuclear war... a warning should do the job... and if they still EMP, well, then Goodbye to them... :P
The warning has to match the threat if its to be credible. In this case its not.

We nuke them, they nuke us too, so goodbye to us too. Whats the point of this when you don't have to do this. Like I most Western aren't leaders insane enough to do this.


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indeed it is some huge IF's... but this whole thread is basicly a huge if...
Yes, but it has good solid facts and cultural motivation to back it up, that what makes it a very possible scenario. ...So it maybe no longer an "IF", but "When".
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December 5th, 2005  
TBA_PAKI
 
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Originally Posted by gladius
You can say that he will bring peace all you want, but I read alot of those writtings from various interpreters, the outcome is not a peaceful one.

Yes, the Mahdi will work hard to bring about peace throughout the world---right after he tries conquers it.

This is from one of many Islamic websites (NOT my own interprtation), it is very clear what most Muslims believe will happen.

Mahdi will lead Muslims to a great victory against the Christian Romans (i.e. All the white Europeans including the Americans). This great war is called al-Malhamah al-Kubrah or Armageddon. It will end up with a great victory to Muslims against Romans after six years. Muslims will take over their capital Rome (this can be any city)...

...Then, you will invade Rome (the Romans) and Allah will grant it (to you).


http://www.islamicweb.com/history/mahdi.htm

There you go I'm not making any of this up.

If the Mahdi with his Islamic Empire tries to conquer Rome or any other major European city, then it will result in WW III. And if the Mahdi doesn't do as it is said then he isn't the Mahdi, so he is bascily stuck into starting WW III, that is the predicamnet here.

Thats simply what it says and I'm going by that. You may have a different interpretation, or you may be trying to sugarcoat, I don't know. But I have to go with the majority of writtings that I find.




I wasn't going by the writtings of Nostradamus, but by the Islamic writtings themselves. (But Nostradamus does have a good track record of predicting future events but thats another story)
galdius, my mate!

You are forgetting that being an educated muslim, I have a much bigger understanding and knowledge about these things.

I even own a special documentary (4 - CD set) that contains very huge information about signs of judgement day and the prophecies of the end times by our Holy Prophet (PBUH). It also contains details about what christians and Jews believe.

Man! seriously, Mehdi will be a modern day saladin and he will be the only person who will manage to unite the current dis-united Islamic world and introduce the true nature of Islam around the world. And of-course there will be skeptism from Athiests and idol worshippers who will be his prime targets.

he will not be the king of terror as Nostradamus prophecies indicate and he will bring justice to the world.

Holy prophet (PBUH) prophecies are even more accurate then that of Nostradamus and he (PBUH) actually even predicted the battles that Mehdi will fight during his leader-ship period.

The capture of EU will be more of a religious type then that of a destructive one. But one thing is that Israel will be wiped out no matter how strong that nation considers it-self.

The battle of Al-kubra will be fought in Middle East, mainly on the parts of Saudi Arabia, Syria and Turkey.
December 5th, 2005  
gladius
 
I can understand what you are saying, maybe you have a different interpretation.

However if you look at most Muslim sources, just on the internet alone for example, they mostly all say about a battle between the Christians and the Muslims for 6 years which ends up in the conquest of Rome. I am just repeating what most Islamic scholars are saying in regards to this. Regardless it is going to be really big and really bloody.

Perhaps you have a different interpretation thats fine. For now I have to go with the majority of Islamic shcolars since this will have most impact on any outcome.
December 5th, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
Maybe they mean "Rome" as the seat of power of Christianity? Right now, the most powerful predominantly xtian nation is the US.
December 5th, 2005  
gladius
 
If thats the case that means Europe falls first since it is closest to the Middle East. So have fun over there when it happens.

The Mahdi will hate Atheist more than Christians, since Europe is predominantly atheist you will get the worst of it.
December 6th, 2005  
Obvious
 
 
No offense but I think this whole entire think is just a load of crap, what are the odds that a area of land that is currently still in the stone age capable of invading europe.
December 6th, 2005  
Chief Bones
 
 

Topic: Ye of little faith


IF you believe in the Bible or Nostradamas' quatrains (predictions) then a take over of Europe and the Middle East isn't so far out of the question.

The Muslims have a prophecy that was well presented by gladius that fortells a leader that will unite the Muslim world in a jihad.

Nostradamas predicted that a leader will rise in the East and will usher in the anti-christ.

The Bible in Revelations predicts that the anti-christ will mark the beginning of the endtimes.

SO - ye of little faith - beware - the prophets may just have the last word.
December 6th, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
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Originally Posted by Chief Bones
The Bible in Revelations predicts that the anti-christ will mark the beginning of the endtimes.
You rang?