The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe! - Page 15




 
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September 17th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
General World-Wide strategy regarding oil: Bleed the Middle East completely dry of it, then use your own.
September 17th, 2004  
Lupos
 
 
To answer your question Sherman, I may have exaggerated a little when I said hundreds of millions. I was a little stressed out that night so I apologize, it is probably a third of a hundred million or something around that. I learned this from the Program Roots of 9/11 on Discovery Times. There are Al Queda cells all over the world, each with a population ranging from 10,000 to 3 million. I merely took an estimate of the numbers, so if I am off well, to err is human. If you have ever seen the History Channel Documentary targeted, you know the possibility that we could be caught in a Catch 22 with Bin Laden. If we kill him he becomes a martyr inspiring muslims all over the place into terror against the west and maybe even farther. If we catch him and hold him like Saddham, it could be even worse with attacks of desperation all over everywhere. It is my speclation that a political deciever will draw out a plan in order to get Al Queda to subside their tide of violence and begin building a certain country in the Middle East (Iraq/Iran/Syria) into a western utopia but still dominated by Muslim Ideas for the most part. Everything else is blahblahblah, it has been said already. You do not have to believe it, but just think about it.
September 18th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
Dar El Harb. The Muslim term for those countries not under Muslim rule. Lets have a little translation:

Dar- House/Tent.
El- Of.
Harb- Sword/War.

Osama and his friends are true fundamentalist followers of Islam. They stick to the original meanings of the Koran. They see any country not ruled by the Sharia(the Islamic Religious Laws) as a target that must be fought against. You cant negotiate with fanatics. This is kind of off-toppic.
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September 19th, 2004  
Lupos
 
 
Well, I can see this is going nowhere. What do you say Gladius, should we all just end this topic. I just can't see anyone else being converted, we'll just have to watch and wait.
September 20th, 2004  
gladius
 
Keep it open. I'm sure there are people who will want to comment every once in while. Yes we'll just have watch and wait, but it won't be for a while.

Around 20 years or so from now when this is actually happening people look back on today, and remember what they read here, most will even remember how they didn't believe it at that time. But by then it will be too late. Probably the same way nobody took Billy Mitchell seriuosly when he said 20 years earlier that the Japanese would bomb Pearl Harbor and expand throughout the Pacific. No one really took Japanese capabilities all too seriuosly, same as they are not taking seriuosly the capabilities of a future united Islamic empire.
September 20th, 2004  
Lupos
 
 
Yes, all very true my friend. Actually, it could also occur after the polar shift and the beggining of the third ice age. But we will have many other things to consider as well, just a thought.
September 20th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
This thread kind of reminds me of the guy on the corner with the big"The End is Near" sign.
Any prophecy has to be taken with a grain of salt considering what the writer wanted to address in that time.
September 23rd, 2004  
gladius
 
I wasn't basing this solely on prophecy alone. I was considering other realistic, economic, military and social factors as well. Considering alot of things in the Islamic world is ripe for an event such as this. Like I said before whether this is true or not, there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who believe this is true, and you can be sure first chance they get they will try to make it happen or force it to happen, whether it is actually a true prophecy or not. You have to admit if the Muslim extremist are able to spread their jihad on the level of having the whole Muslim world rise up then it would surely pose a threat, this is the one chance that will allow them to do this.

But one thing about the prophecies that get me is that you have three different independent sources, two of them have been proven reputable all pointing towards the same scenario.
September 23rd, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Now Iraq looks more likely to fall into civil war. This is not good. Unless the US military is allowed to clean out places like Fallujha, the elections will be very chaotic.
September 23rd, 2004  
gladius
 
Although I think our invasion of Iraq bought us some time maybe 5 or 10 years. My personal opinion on this is; whether ther will be war or peace it really won't matter. The main factor is the Mahdi ledgend, unless you can get rid of that, whatever the situation that happens in that region, as long as there are people willing to make it come true, regardless of the condition of the area, it will more or less take shape.


On a side note:
If you want to get an insight into this Mahdi phenomenon, there is a good movie you can rent called "Khartum" staring Charlton Heston. It has Chalrton Heston as Gordon Pasha versus the Mahdi. It is based on a true story of someone in the past who claimed to be the Mahdi, Muslims flocked to him in droves and he promptly started a war. Although this happened in the past, just imagine something similar happening in the future. Worth watching I think if you want to have an insight of the mindset that goes with this.