The rising of an Empire and the future invasion of Europe! - Page 14




 
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September 16th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
If Russia invades europe, I'll eat my hat.

and then another guy's hat.

.........and then another one of my hats
September 16th, 2004  
captainbuddha
 

Topic: future invasion of europe


Hi Gladius,
are there any signs that the Arab army is being assembled, any radio signals, do we have our spy satelites and inteligence in place? And when the Mahdi comes, would it be possible please to surgically wipe him out, like Sharon did with the very bad invalid 73 old Palistinian leader in his wheelchair? Nice idea, the United Moslim States, but I think it more possible that the Chinese invade the world. They don't need lines of supplies, there is a Chinese restaurant on practically every block in the whole wide world. And it is so hard to know what they're realy up to, speak any Chinese?
September 16th, 2004  
Lupos
 
 
AHHHHHHH!!!
These countries will very well build themselves up in twenty years, especially if the west helps. If you have ever watched the program Targeted on the History channel, you would know that even though we are close to catching Usama Bin Laden we are also closest to chaos. When the US captures Bin Laden, Al Queda will do anything to free him. They will target all of Americas allies, and most of them will drop out and leave to protect themselves. Even worse is if the West kills Bin Laden, he will become a Martyr and a new legacy for Muslim power.
Al Queda has hundreds of millions of members all around the world, they can easily cause trouble all over the west in open war. Let us not forget, Usama Bin Laden and many of his subordinates were trained by the US. They still know quite enough to cause trouble and slaughter thousands in open war.
The west really does not care as much as many would think about each other. Even if Europe is invaded, many of the more powerful countries would back out knowing that they may be able to avoid losing their own. RUSSIA WILL NOT TRY TO INVADE EUROPE, THEY HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH THEIR OWN COUNTRY! The only role Russia plays here is that they sell all the weapons to them.
Bottom line whether you want to believe it or not, the western world may face its greatest threat in almost a century soon. DO NOT DOUBT THE POWER ISLAM AND THE ANTI WEST PROPAGANDA OF THE MIDDLE EAST, IT WILL DESTROY US ALL IF WE DO NOT TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS.
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September 16th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
This topic is getting a little strange again.


Lupos wrote:

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hundreds of millions of members all around the world
Really? Where is that noumber from?Are you suggesting that almost 20%(the lowest ammount that is "hundreds of millions" is 200 million...) of all muslims are Al Queda members?! That is absurd. Yes, the Muslim Fundamentalist are dangerous, and yes, they must be taken care of....But they pose no major threat to the western democracys. They can kill, they can hurt the economy....But they cannot destroy a western country. Look at Israel. We are the only western country to deal with Fundamentalist and Arab-Nationalistic terror every day. And yet we stand. The economy is even showing signs of a turn-up.....There is no need to panick about Al Queda. There are many reasons to destroy it.
September 16th, 2004  
SAINT
 
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Originally Posted by SHERMAN
There is no need to panick about Al Queda. There are many reasons to destroy it.
I like that..
September 16th, 2004  
OSEU
 
Russia Invade Europe? Don't you guys know western russia is in Europe?
September 16th, 2004  
gladius
 
Some of you still don't get it, there are no Arab armies assembling right now, this will only happen after the Mahdi shows up, they themsleves will not do anything en mass without the Mahdi, please don't let me explain this over and over.

Like lupus said; "IT WILL DESTROY US ALL IF WE DO NOT TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS." This is what I'm trying to point out here that this is a future threat. And by the looks of a lot of the comments on this board most people in the West will take this lightly and underestimate them, and because of that, there will be hell to pay.

Again I'd like to point back to my question on Page 8 of this thread, Question to the readers of this thread.

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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
The key factor would be deviousness. If the fellow cannot mask his ambitions with a pretense of good-will toward the rest of the world, then he's in for a messy ride.

If I were in that position, the first thing I would do was put a stop to all Muslim based global terrorism. I'd make peace with Israel and make absolutely everyone think that I'm the best and greatest of people. I'd get the world of Islam firmly united and technologically up-to-date. Since I don't have the numbers to conquer the world outright, I would need technology surpassing all other nations. The world would likely give me the Nobel Peace Prize for being such a schpiffty guy. From there, I'd build, consolidate and prepare. I'd put extremely well disguised terrorist sleeper cells everywhere possible. Once I have the resources and military might of sufficient strength, I'd coordinate all sleeper cells to activate and strike simultaneously. It would be a matter of catching the world completely off-guard, allowing the damage inflicted to be the greatest possible. Then and only then, would I be ready to launch a war of global conquest.
This is probably what I would do, or along the lines of this.

But as far as the West is concerned I personally don't think I can equal their technology, but I will close the gap as much as I can, and certainly make up for what I can't with manpower, as far as attacking them is concerned.

Diplomacy is probably the most powerful tool you can use. I would make myself look a man of peace, like Nelson Mandela and Ghandi combined. I'm sure there are enough liberal peacenicks around the world who would eat this up. Almost the same way Neville Chamberlain and all those that wanted peace so much were blinded by Hitlers true intention.

Oil is also a leverage. I would give certain countries (like China) huge discounts on oil to make them solely dependant on me for their supply. So when the fightng starts they would be hesitant to join in against me.

I would also make sure that the large and growing Muslims populations in Europe puts enough political presure on the Europeans so they would not interfere with me until the very last second, when I first send my troops across their soil. And with the Europeans liberal sentiments and policies this would not be too difficult.

There are so much more you can do, these are some of the things I would given the position.

I urge more of you againto go to Page 8 and look at Question to the readers of this thread.

When you do, DON'T analyze this from the side of the West, its not going to work. You have to step into the opposite shoe and see what the West has in order to overcome it.

Your advantage is you know what the opposition has and its up to you to try and figure out how to beat it. After all armies don't really change their tactics which have given them victories in the past, they only change them if they start to get beat really bad.

In order to do this you may have to do some thinking outside the box.

Afterall Hitler and his generals would have never done what they did using the same old strategies. They thought outside the box.

Like I said before whoever ascends to the position of Mahdi is almost likely to have extraordinary qualities to get him to that position in the first place. I doubt he will be an idiot, in fact I think for him to get there he will have to posses some genius or near-genius qualities, like Hitler, Napoleon, Hanibal, Ghengis Khan, ect.

If me and a few other people on this board alone can answer my question on Page 8 successfully, how much more do you think the Mahdi will be able to answer it,
September 16th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
The reason I take it lightly is because I dont believe there is a Mahdi...I do realize the possible threat of the Muslim world uniting, bt those are proceses that would take years, and can then be reacted to....
September 16th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
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Oil is also a leverage. I would give certain countries (like China) huge discounts on oil to make them solely dependant on me for their supply. So when the fightng starts they would be hesitant to join in against me.
Facts:
1. China is the 5th Largest oil producer in the world, annually producing 200 million tons crude oil.
2. China itself is in the top 5 oil reserve countries.
3. China is "crying" for oil, for sure, but China's intention is to BUY oil instead of digging out own oil.

In Chinese offshores, we already discoverd over 50 billion tons oil and gas reserves, not counting the oil in Spratly Islands (South China Sea) yet.
September 17th, 2004  
gladius
 
The US also has tons of oil reserves, but they're not using it they're instead buying from the Middle East, same with China that's one of the reasons gas is so high right now because of Chinese demand.

If you make a country dependent on your own oil by making it cheaper to buy it from you instead of digging it from the ground then by the time they decide to switch it will take them some time to do so. Besides China is just an example, there are other countries this could be done to.

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Originally Posted by SHERMAN
The reason I take it lightly is because I dont believe there is a Mahdi...I do realize the possible threat of the Muslim world uniting, bt those are proceses that would take years, and can then be reacted to....
Neither do most people, neither do I, at least I don't believe he is divinely guided.

But I already explained this before it does not matter if we believe it or not. It really doesn't. What matters is there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who believe this and they are more than willing to see this happen.

It doesn't matter if you believe this, but your neighbor does. When it does happen he is going to try to force the issue on you, whether you think it matters or not.