Reservists with certain status can opt out

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Reservists with certain status can opt out
By Robert Burns, AP Military Writer | November 17, 2005

WASHINGTON --The Army said Thursday it has stopped the involuntary call-up of officers in a certain reserve status, following complaints by some officers mobilized after being out of uniform for years.

The policy change affects an estimated 15,000 officers in the Individual Ready Reserve, a segment of the reserve that consists mainly of soldiers who left active duty but still have time remaining on their eight-year military obligation.

The 15,000 have completed their eight-year obligation but chose to stay in the Individual Ready Reserve. The IRR differs from other reserve categories such as the National Guard by not requiring regular training.

Under a new policy adopted Nov. 4, IRR officers can avoid being called to active duty, but only if they resign their commission. Previously, an officer could not resign once ordered to active duty.

By staying in the IRR beyond the required eight-year obligation, officers remain eligible for promotions and enjoy some military benefits. They generally are not paid and are subject to recall to active duty.

The Army began notifying several thousand IRR soldiers in the summer of 2004 that they were being mobilized for possible deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan. But a large number of them failed to report for duty or requested a delay. Some complained that they never expected to be forced back into uniform; many were unfit.

The Army has been unable to contact some.

Of the 511 IRR members who had not reported for duty as of early October, more then 80 percent had ignored the Army's notification or could not be found, according to Army records. About 70 of the 511 had been contacted, but refused to comply with their mobilization order. The Army has yet to decide how to deal with those reservists.

The last time members of the IRR were called to active duty was 1990, when nearly 20,000 were mobilized but not deployed.

In recent years, most had come to assume they would never be called up. But the strains of simultaneous conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan have forced the Army to mobilize about 6,500 IRR members.

As of October, the last month for which the Army has published figures, only 3,346 had reported for duty.

Lt. Col. Bryan Hilferty, an Army spokesman, said IRR officers who are past their eight-year military obligation and who have been selected for potential recall to active duty will be discharged unless they elect to remain in the IRR. They also could choose to request a delay in their mobilization or request a waiver.

The policy does not affect enlisted soldiers in the IRR, many of whom also have balked at returning to service.

Hilferty said those IRR officers who already have been mobilized and are training in the United States for a deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan will be given the choice of resigning or continuing in their active-duty assignment.

The choices are spelled out on an Army form being provided to affected IRR officers. It says those who choose to resign their commission are entitled to an honorable discharge. Those who elect to remain in the IRR will understand that they "remain a mobilization asset" and are willing to serve on active duty.

Those IRR officers who already are in Iraq or Afghanistan will not be allowed to resign. Rather, they will be required to complete their tour of duty, Hilferty said.

In a recent interview with a group of reporters, Army Secretary Francis J. Harvey said, without mentioning any changes in IRR mobilization policy, that it was "profoundly irritating to me" to see how difficult it has been for the Army to contact IRR members. He said the Army failed to keep adequate IRR records.
 
In a recent interview with a group of reporters, Army Secretary Francis J. Harvey said, without mentioning any changes in IRR mobilization policy, that it was "profoundly irritating to me" to see how difficult it has been for the Army to contact IRR members. He said the Army failed to keep adequate IRR records.
As I have always understood it, keeping records such as addresses up to date is the responsibility of the individual IRR member. I don't understand what Harvey is talking about. Unless someone notifies the Army personnel center of a new address, there is no way for them to know that a soldier has moved. It's not like they're sending retirement checks out to these people on a regular basis.
I don't know about the officers but I was activated from the IRR for Desert Storm. The President exercised an executive order that allowed him to recall everyone that had left the service during the previous 12 months. Even though I had retired after 20 years just months before, I had no hesitations about reporting back to duty. For me, there would have been no repercussions had I chose not to report for duty because I had already done my time for retirement. Before I retired for the second time, I at least got to ride around in the desert and fire some expensive ordinance at some bad guys. Now that's what I call going out with a bang :lol:
I know how I feel about these officers that choose to resign their commissions rather than fulfill their obligations. They really shouldn't have been taken by surprise by their call up. I just don't understand them I guess.
 
I remember when Desert Storm came calling and fellow uni students started chiming in about why don't I try to get a deferment or some stuff. They told me of others who were doing it. I kinda shrugged and said I knew this could happen when I signed and no one put a gun to my head. My history prof was a Vietnam vet who flew with the Air Cav that helped out the Marines in a little trouble a time or two. He had me come up to his house in West Lafayette for a no shitter the weekend before I reported in. He let me take my final exam a couple months early out of "respect for living up to your (my) obligations". Then there is another side that has a hard time with pulling some guy to report in after 15 years out and all the associated hardships.
 
Well as I see it they shouldn't expect to sit on their duffs in the IRR and collect the associated bennies without fulfilling the accompanying obligations. They can't have their cake and eat it too. I say either report for duty when called or resign(as that seems to be an option) and stop pretending to be a soldier. It's just my opinion though.
 
DTop said:
Well as I see it they shouldn't expect to sit on their duffs in the IRR and collect the associated bennies without fulfilling the accompanying obligations. They can't have their cake and eat it too. I say either report for duty when called or resign(as that seems to be an option) and stop pretending to be a soldier. It's just my opinion though.

What "bennies" are you talking about DTop? As I recall, being in the IRR only gets you 15 points per year for membership which is all you get and it is not enough to get any retirement because you need, if I remember correctly a minimum of 50 points per year to have a good year for retirement. I am not aware of any other bennies, i.e. commissary & BX privelages, etc.

Don't get me wrong though I am of the same opinion as you and Bulldogg on this.
 
Until that Pink ID card expires you rate PX, Commissary and Club Priviliges.

Opps mean ID card they aren't Pink anymore.
 
03USMC said:
Until that Pink ID card expires you rate PX, Commissary and Club Priviliges.

Opps mean ID card they aren't Pink anymore.

Didn't know that even when I was in the IRR (which wasn't very long), so I stand corrected. Thanks, 03USMC.
 
I did but I had to got and get one issued to me, they didn't just and it to me. My situation was that of a retiree so maybe it's different than those who are just completing their initial obligation.
 
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