Quality Armies vs. quantity armies - Page 2




 
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June 4th, 2004  
Gunner13
 
 
Old Russian Military saying: "Quantity has a quality all its own". While numbers alone will not guarantee that you will win a battle or a war, they can make things very interesting for your opponents (especially if you don't care about your own casualties )
June 4th, 2004  
AFSteliga
 
 
I prefer a higher quality Army over a higher quantity Army. Just look at the Canadian Forces. We're extremely small (About half of what the US Marines are) yet we have a very well respected military throughout the world.
June 4th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
Well, I dont know about not caring about casualties. Leaders dont care much maybe, but the people do care.

As to the quantity having its own quality, well thats true, but not enough quality. Ill give to you plain. Take me, and take a bunch of 6th graders, lets say 10 of them. Ok, Im outnoumbred 10 to 1, so am i in trouble?
All they can do is maybe give me a bloody nose, if they are really tough 6th graders...Ill just kick them around, because they cant take a single punch from me and i can takedozens of theirs....Dang, that was the dumbest comparison I made in my life....Still though, if you have alot of untrained man, thats just mmore target practice for the enemy.
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June 4th, 2004  
Gunner13
 
 
Neither Stalin (WWII) nor Mao (Korean War) really cared about friendly casulaties, nor did von Falkenhayn or Joffe (WWI). That's what I mean.
June 5th, 2004  
IrishWizard
 
A good example of a small unit against a larger one would be the Spartan army in a certain war... Persian War or Pelop*****ian where it was 7,000 Spartans vs. 24,000 Persians. All the Spartans died but they killed over 15,000 men. Thats skill
June 5th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
The best example of this is when spanish conquestador's beaten thousands of maya people with 400 of them(with rifles)
June 5th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
Acctually, if im not wrong there were much less spartans and many many more parsians....
June 5th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
No one said you are
June 5th, 2004  
bush musketeer
 
 

Topic: yeah but


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Originally Posted by IrishWizard
A good example of a small unit against a larger one would be the Spartan army in a certain war... Persian War or Pelop*****ian where it was 7,000 Spartans vs. 24,000 Persians. All the Spartans died but they killed over 15,000 men. Thats skill
yeah thats right, i aslo think that terrain has a hell of a lot to do with the force that you might choose. was that the battle of themopaly?

in ww2 the aussie govt sent 300 millita against 13,000 japanese in the highlands of new guinea as a temporary road block really they were, not expected to come back. and even though they were badly trained & armed, they managed to hold the japanese long enough for other aussie units to arrive and help. and the jungle terrain had a lot to do with it because it limited the size of attacks that the japanese could launch, which meant the battalion could rest its companys and rotate them when it had too. had it of been open country it would of been a differnet story so i also think that the type of terrain is a big factor perhaps in the type of army you might want.
June 5th, 2004  
Le Vince
 
hi everybody (my first post on this forum)

another example of quatity vs quality:
1863, battle of camerone
62 soldiers and 3officers of the french foreign legion against 2000 Mexicans (Eight hundred riders, thousand two hundred infantrymen).

During 11 hours, they resisted to two thousand enemies, killed three hundreds and wounded as much.
3 french had survived.
59 french killed, 300 mexicans killed and 300 wounded.
Every years this battle is celebrated by the french foreign legion.

The whole story here : http://www.legion-etrangere.info/site/camerone.php
in french sorry