Originally Posted by wolfen

You won't know which religion will win this little game the world plays until the end
I really think war among the Arabs is not going to happen, although it would seem that war between Arabs and westerners has already happened.
Personally I serve no God, I serve no Devil, but if they want war with me I'll be happy to oblige them

Hi Wolfen. In African wars in Spanish and French colonies in early and not so early 20th Century most of tribal clans were in war eachother. Abdelkrim was the leader who learned how to unit them against European and he crashed us (Spanish) in Annual, he even arrived to Melillás doors until Legion arrived and saved the town.

Anyway during those years Spanish army had some corps of muslims "Regulares" "Tropas indigenas"... who served Spain. They even fought in National band in Civil War and Franco had a personal guard of muslims.

I think there are many evidences of war among muslims. Actually Mauritania has no good relationships with Marocco, Marrocco is still in problems with Sahara citizens, in 1st Gulf war Iraq invaded Kuwait and the coalition found many muslim allied forces.

It´s for sure that religion ideas can unit countries but it´s also Known political and economic interests are so important too. Marocco tries to be near Europe more than to the muslim, although they are muslims, becouse the weight of money is so important. Turkey is a mixture of ideas that is more near to Europe than oriental zones, and the had fighting conflicts with other muslims in Kurdistan frontier.

Only to see what happens in Iraq actually between the Sunni and the Shiite doctrines.

I think is much better to let them solution their problems (internal fights) and pray for not to appear a new "Abdelkrim".

Anyway time had changed and for example en 2002, 11th July a Spanish little island was assaulted by marroquian gendarmery troops, when they were told to leave they showed the Marocco flag. NATO wanted to know nothing about the problem. Europan Comunity said it was Spanish and Marocco sent 12 infantry marines to island (better preparation than gendarmery). Some European countries were not inclined to Spain because of the importance of their economic inversions in Marocco.

At this time appeared some warships near Melilla (Spanish city in North of Africa) and Spain moved Spanish combat troops (specially Legion) to that town in prevention.

On 17th July Spanish Army Special Operations took the island making prisioner all the Marroquian marines and were relevated By Spanish Legion troops located in 2nd Tercio de la Legion from Ceuta (other Spanish Legion town in North Africa and where I served during my time in Legion).

As you can see, support of Occidental side was more than soft and political, Nato looked other side. Money is more important sometimes than to be allied.

Best

Personally I hope the Mayans were right as that would be a giant kick in the arse for all the religious prophets out there.

Besides I have nothing planned for 2012 anyway so the world ending could be just the kick start the year needs.

Originally Posted by MontyB

Personally I hope the Mayans were right as that would be a giant kick in the arse for all the religious prophets out there.

Besides I have nothing planned for 2012 anyway so the world ending could be just the kick start the year needs.

Probably Mayans had thought to be in condom bussiness in that year and so prepared end of the world to increase sales.

Anyway I have lived so many times end of world that I don´t really mind whenever it is

Let 'em come, I shall smite thee
If God wills it- so be it ^^

I'd be pissed, I'm just getting started.

Originally Posted by Solideo

Hi Wolfen. In African wars in Spanish and French colonies in early and not so early 20th Century most of tribal clans were in war eachother. Abdelkrim was the leader who learned how to unit them against European and he crashed us (Spanish) in Annual, he even arrived to Melillás doors until Legion arrived and saved the town.

Anyway during those years Spanish army had some corps of muslims "Regulares" "Tropas indigenas"... who served Spain. They even fought in National band in Civil War and Franco had a personal guard of muslims.

I think there are many evidences of war among muslims. Actually Mauritania has no good relationships with Marocco, Marrocco is still in problems with Sahara citizens, in 1st Gulf war Iraq invaded Kuwait and the coalition found many muslim allied forces.

It´s for sure that religion ideas can unit countries but it´s also Known political and economic interests are so important too. Marocco tries to be near Europe more than to the muslim, although they are muslims, becouse the weight of money is so important. Turkey is a mixture of ideas that is more near to Europe than oriental zones, and the had fighting conflicts with other muslims in Kurdistan frontier.

Only to see what happens in Iraq actually between the Sunni and the Shiite doctrines.

I think is much better to let them solution their problems (internal fights) and pray for not to appear a new "Abdelkrim".

Anyway time had changed and for example en 2002, 11th July a Spanish little island was assaulted by marroquian gendarmery troops, when they were told to leave they showed the Marocco flag. NATO wanted to know nothing about the problem. Europan Comunity said it was Spanish and Marocco sent 12 infantry marines to island (better preparation than gendarmery). Some European countries were not inclined to Spain because of the importance of their economic inversions in Marocco.

At this time appeared some warships near Melilla (Spanish city in North of Africa) and Spain moved Spanish combat troops (specially Legion) to that town in prevention.

On 17th July Spanish Army Special Operations took the island making prisioner all the Marroquian marines and were relevated By Spanish Legion troops located in 2nd Tercio de la Legion from Ceuta (other Spanish Legion town in North Africa and where I served during my time in Legion).

As you can see, support of Occidental side was more than soft and political, Nato looked other side. Money is more important sometimes than to be allied.

Best

Hmmm, never knew that, thanks thats a bit of info I need to investigae further

Originally Posted by wolfen

Hmmm, never knew that, thanks thats a bit of info I need to investigae further

Aaaaaall right, dive unto wikipedia then. LOL
And this for Marroquian invaders, plumb pills 7,62 or cal 50 (spanish 12.70)

Originally Posted by MontyB

Besides I have nothing planned for 2012 anyway so the world ending could be just the kick start the year needs.

Oh NO.... that could affect the production schedule of the F-35!

WW3? if the mayans, nostradamus and his little tinfoil hat friends are correct the world is going to end in 2012 so why worry about ww3?

Originally Posted by Solideo

Aaaaaall right, dive unto wikipedia then. LOL
And this for Marroquian invaders, plumb pills 7,62 or cal 50 (spanish 12.70)

I only use that for anything not really too important, for religious info I use religious sites, for science I use science sites. for facts I use teh news sites.