Oliver Stone Praises Castro, Rips Bush - Page 5




 
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Boots
 
October 27th, 2004  
Aida
 
As a matter of fact Courtney and anyone else who's interested about race in Cuba, go to http://www.hope.edu/delatorre/articles/jhlt.html. I really don't mean to racialize the discussion but I always find it sad when people basically say that race doesnt exist or it doesnt matter, mostly because I feel like that's a VERY sheltered perspective. I think it shouldnt matter, but sadly it does
October 28th, 2004  
Courtenay
 
The largest suppression for people of color I see in today's world is the notion that we need someone's help to succeed. And if you look at the politicians in the US who claim to care for minorities and claim to want to help the social structure of minorities, they are wealthy white men who come from wealthy white families. Keeping themselves "needed" by the people is how I see it. I say make the people able to function and be successful without their help...their social programs, and their suppressive agendas.

I am not going to compare history to the current world. That is apples and oranges. You learn from history, you understand the mistakes of history to not make the same again, but most certainly one should not use history as a crutch and an excuse. Too often that is the case. I am well aware of the predjudices that existed in early Cuba.....even up to the 20th century. I am from Santiago de Cuba, where the whites who fled Haiti came with their black slaves....the birthplace of Santeria. I know about racism in our mother country. I know about racism here. I live with a white face and a spanish surname. That puts me inbetween. I am not latina enough for the latinos, nor am I white enough for the whites. I do speak, read and write my native tongue, as well as my adopted one. But never is it a reason for me to believe that anyone has the ability to stop me from doing anything it is I want to do. And I would feel the same if my face were morena...or cafe con leche....or any other color inbetween.

And I will continue to dislike what Castro has done to Cuba. If he were providing a viable productive way of life.....people wouldn't risk their lives to flee. Nor would he feel it necessary to punish those who attempt it and are not successful. Communism in theory can sound like an enlightened way of life. In application it is impossible and oppressive. As is socialism. Capitalism may seem unfair....and it is. The strongest survive the most talented and intelligent prosper and those less fortunate get left behind. Surely we all understand that there should be some middle ground.
October 28th, 2004  
rOk
 
 
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Originally Posted by Courtenay
Communism in theory can sound like an enlightened way of life. In application it is impossible and oppressive. As is socialism. Capitalism may seem unfair....and it is. The strongest survive the most talented and intelligent prosper and those less fortunate get left behind. Surely we all understand that there should be some middle ground.
I see communism and socialism more unfair in practice than capitalism.
At least in my country it was so...the peeps with family connections got the best jobs that there were...the rest were doomed to a factory life or peasantry...connections are of course important in the capitalist world too but not to that extent as in a socialist regime
Capitalism brings diversity, more people can capitalise on their talents than in a socialist(communist) regime.
It's almost equal for everyone right at the start and an individual can make it big time easier if he's talented and persistant enough.

Though communism/socialism would really be an enlightened way of life-unfortunately human nature/corruption stops it from being what Marx, Lenin and others planned it would be.
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Boots
October 28th, 2004  
Italian Guy
 
 
What country were you from ?
October 28th, 2004  
rOk
 
 
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Originally Posted by Italian Guy
What country were you from ?
I was from Yugoslavia.
October 28th, 2004  
Italian Guy
 
 
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Originally Posted by rOk
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Originally Posted by Italian Guy
What country were you from ?
I was from Yugoslavia.

Oh. Where they say Communism was more "human". Just figure.