Moscow approves its first gay pride parade... on Border Troops Day lol

[Prapor]

Seriously. they approved it for the 28th of May, Border Troops Day :roll:

Now, Paratroopers, Marines, and Border Troops each have their own 'Day'. And for police it is always a bad time. I know, since I am myself in a volunteer street patrol squad during Paratroopers' Day, my professional holiday, what it is like, lots of very intoxicated veterans out there, macho men, who also happen to be highly trained fighters. Police alone cannot handle them, that is why we have to step in, occasionally. It all usually starts fine, celebrations, partying. But later in the evening, mayhem starts. Fights, fist fights, knife fights, street brawls like you cannot imagine.

Border Troops are the same way

It's our day, so lets go wild, lets trash this city, and beat the hell out of anyone who tries to stop us...

(by the way, jumping into fountains is a tradition. Airborne started doing this first, back in the Soviet days. Now everyone does it... idiots lol)

So, you have all these drunk Border Troops out there and, same like the Paras and the Marines, as time goes by, the drunker they get, the more aggressive and violent they become

After last Border Troops Day, some 35 people were hospitalised, mostly stabbing wounds, or injuries sustained from a 'rozochka' (beer bottle broken on the bottom end).

I do not think that holding a homosexualist march on such a day is very wise. They are guarranteed to be set upon by the Border men. Nothing those guys hate more than 'pidorasy' ('faggots')... Maybe that is what the government wants though.

 

[GHR]

Personally I have no respect for veterans who behave in this way. That these former soldiers behave like that is in my view to disgrace the uniform they have earned the right to bear. But military culture is of course not identical in all countries. Is it generally accepted in Russia? How do you feel about it yourself?

It seems as though violence is a big part of being a soldier in Russia. I have served with Baltic soldiers and have heard many horror stories about being a soldier under the former USSR like sexual humiliation and killings of officers and NCO´s. Don’t know if it still is so. The problem as I see it, if Russian troops one day will have to work with Danish soldiers I will already have the notion that Russian troops are drunken violent psychopaths. Sorry, I just can’t take it seriously.

 

[Prapor]

Personally I have no respect for veterans who behave in this way. That these former soldiers behave like that is in my view to disgrace the uniform they have earned the right to bear. But military culture is of course not identical in all countries. Is it generally accepted in Russia? How do you feel about it yourself?

It seems as though violence is a big part of being a soldier in Russia. I have served with Baltic soldiers and have heard many horror stories about being a soldier under the former USSR like sexual humiliation and killings of officers and NCO´s. Don’t know if it still is so. The problem as I see it, if Russian troops one day will have to work with Danish soldiers I will already have the notion that Russian troops are drunken violent psychopaths. Sorry, I just can’t take it seriously.

Violence is a part of living in Russia these days... In the military too. I do not know about 'sexual humiliation', never encountered that myself, but I had a commander in the Airborne who routinely used his fists and his boots with troops when he felt words were not enough... He was really good at throwing those 2 kg boots. Could get you right in the forehead from across the room :smile:

But, yeah, it is a violent country and society as a whole. I know in my apartment building we had two brothers (brothers, mind!) get into an argument over their mother's inheritance, they fought, one bashed the other with a baseball bat, put him into hospital... Routine stuff here, **** happens.

I always escort my wife and children everywhere, and am always armed, when we go outside. Because she is Armenian, and we are all from Caucasus and look like it, potential for some nationalist *******s trying to come after them, or me, is high. So I always carry at least a 'traumatic' (rubber bullet gun), and always keep on my guard. I already had to fight on the Metro once. Though I was not directly the target there, I just stepped in to defend someone else, a young man from Central Asia who was cleaning the floors down there when some alcoholic 'Moscow-born' idiot began picking on him for being 'dark'. He tried to hit me with his beer bottle too. I had to put his head against the wall a couple times to... calm him down, so to speak.

As I said, that's a part of daily life around here.

 

[Del Boy]

Interesting. You report very well Prapor.

 

[Redleg]

Interesting. You report very well Prapor.

^^^^ What he said. :smil:

 

[senojekips]

I too enjoy your excellent reports Prapor.

They are very informative giving us all an insight into your country and your culture.

 

[A Can of Man]

Yup. Learned more about Russia's military units and culture than anywhere else.

 

[Del Boy]

This man Prapor has a talent Guys. A few lines offers more memorable instruction than you get from a professor in a month. When he describes it - it sticks! :thumb:

We've got another Boz here I reckon.

 

[Prapor]

This man Prapor has a talent Guys. A few lines offers more memorable instruction than you get from a professor in a month. When he describes it - it sticks! :thumb:

We've got another Boz here I reckon.

Thank you, I suppose (whoever this 'Boz' was, was a he a good person, at least? lol)

Well, when people ask me something, I jut do my best to answer fully. Same when I myself post, I try to give information, educate.

 

[GHR]

Violence is a part of living in Russia these days... In the military too. I do not know about 'sexual humiliation', never encountered that myself, but I had a commander in the Airborne who routinely used his fists and his boots with troops when he felt words were not enough... He was really good at throwing those 2 kg boots. Could get you right in the forehead from across the room :smile:

But, yeah, it is a violent country and society as a whole. I know in my apartment building we had two brothers (brothers, mind!) get into an argument over their mother's inheritance, they fought, one bashed the other with a baseball bat, put him into hospital... Routine stuff here, **** happens.

I always escort my wife and children everywhere, and am always armed, when we go outside. Because she is Armenian, and we are all from Caucasus and look like it, potential for some nationalist *******s trying to come after them, or me, is high. So I always carry at least a 'traumatic' (rubber bullet gun), and always keep on my guard. I already had to fight on the Metro once. Though I was not directly the target there, I just stepped in to defend someone else, a young man from Central Asia who was cleaning the floors down there when some alcoholic 'Moscow-born' idiot began picking on him for being 'dark'. He tried to hit me with his beer bottle too. I had to put his head against the wall a couple times to... calm him down, so to speak.

As I said, that's a part of daily life around here.

I agree with the others here. Very interesting and instructive what you tell and show us.

It is a shame that your community are moving in that direction.
One day there surely will be a demand from citizens for law and order and then what? A coup d'état​​?

 

[Del Boy]

Thank you, I suppose (whoever this 'Boz' was, was a he a good person, at least? lol)

Well, when people ask me something, I jut do my best to answer fully. Same when I myself post, I try to give information, educate.

My pleasure Prapor. Are you familiar with Charles Dickens, England's greatest 19th c. author and social commentator; a great deal of our vew of the street situation stems from his writing, so our view of London in those days is largely his view.

Well, before he became famous, he wrote regular articles and pamphlets, some of which he sold on the streets, under the pen-name of Boz.

I speak here of my schoolboy understanding, I haven't checked the internet, but I imagine there is plenty of info. there..

Definitely, Boz iz good Prapor.

 

[Prapor]

I agree with the others here. Very interesting and instructive what you tell and show us.

It is a shame that your community are moving in that direction.
One day there surely will be a demand from citizens for law and order and then what? A coup d'état​​?

Not sure.

Most people here like living that way. Even when it comes to the police

People like that if you are stopped on the road, you don't have to pay a fine, get a criminal record. You can just bribe the policeman off

In fact, corruption is the second main ingredient in life here. It's not just police. You want your children to get better marks in school, have to pay the teachers, maybe the director too. Want to do some renovations in your apartment that are not, technically, allowed? Pay the Housing-Communal Bureau. Etc. Anything and anyone here can be bought for the right price.

It is actually quite interesting. Not too long ago, like, 3 weeks ago, on his RenTV talk show, Tigran Keosayan

was talking about corruption. He always has 3 'guests' on the show, this time were a Communist member of Duma, a police general, and a anti-corruption activist. And at one point, Tigran asked the audience in the studio, how many of you disapprove of corruption? Pretty much everyone raised their hands. Then he asked, how many here paid a bribe this week? Again, same answer

That's the thing. People know the situation is not exactly right, with corruption, with everything. But they simply live with it. It's more convenient that way :roll:

 

[A Can of Man]

haha I've lived in a few places like that.

 

[Prapor]

Moscow bans gay pride parade, citing fears of "civil unrest"


http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/...7/russia-moscow-lgbt-gays-pride-parade-banned

lol I knew it...

 

[USRedLeg]

Haha, yea. From what you have said so far that seems like a very wise idea.

Thanks for the insight into your culture. It has been very informative reading your post thus far.