It's fine you don't have to believe it if you don't want to.
"Magazines, newspapers, periodicals are on microfilm and available at libraries. Using sources available you can almost always find usable information if you learn how to search for it."
Provide source.
"This topic was started by 13th_Redneck as a complaint about misinformation. Now you have the same people who complain, trying to support misinformation because they are to lazy to search for valid sources."
Provide source. Prove that what I said is a lie.
"Everyone here would probably agree that there is a lot of misinformation available. It is not a personal attack on anyone to ask for valid sources to support a point someone is trying to make. It is just a method to validate the point. People get defensive about it because they would have to do a little work."
Provide source. Prove it.
"First I would not need to prove water existed or that it was drinkable. Whether it was poison or not does not matter."
What if I don't believe you? Provide source.
Whatever. I have nothing I need to prove.
Your post, TOGs, and 13th_rednecks give excuses for not providing sources for your statements. They are not valid reasons.
It is not a personal attack on anyone to ask for valid sources to support a point someone is trying to make. It is just a method to validate the point. People get defensive about it because they would have to do a little work.
This is true but if a source can not be provided then rather than get into arguments about supplying one it is easier to make a comment from memory.
You know I was really disappointed at the ... behavior and misinformation campaigns (in politics) ... Seriously guys, how can you ever believe that "OUR SIDE GOT IT ALL RIGHT AND NEVER MADE A MISTAKE!!!" ... Remember that your party gets it right and your party also gets it wrong. You have to be fair about it ...
There should not be an argument over supplying sources when requested it is a rule of the forum.
It is easier for lazy people to spout gibberish from memory rather than do a little work.
Just add yourself to the list of those who make excuses for not providing sources for their statements. They are still not valid reasons.
People should not complain about receiving misinformation if they are a willing partner in it.
If you can not find a specific source you think may exist than find another to support your point.
I disagree, if I say something as fact then I agree I should back it up with sources but if I say something relevant to the discussion but from memory then it can not be backed up with sources unless you have some qualifications as a mind reader.
This is why it is important to word responses in discussions in such a way as the two systems can be differentiated.
Further to this there is a lot of information that is not available via the web and therefore can not be linked as a source for example information from books or subscription websites.
I think most people would understand that a statement like above would not need support.There is also the problem that at some point information has to be accepted or rejected at face value for example if you tell us a cat peed on your rug should we sit here demanding pictures, DNA tests and signed/ notarized declarations that this actually happened (Lets not forget the requirement to validate all of your downstream witnesses etc.) or should we just say "OK it matches the stain" and move on.
I have not said that statements of opinions need sources. But if you stated or alluded to your point being fact then sources could be requested. It could then be left to a moderator to determine whether a source was needed.I would also like to point out that if I say such things as:
- In my opinion the sky is purple.
- I believe that cats lay eggs.
I do not have to provide a source as they are views not necessarily formed from fact.
Two things wrong with the above statement.There is of course one other option available to you, if you do not believe something posted is accurate then you can provide sources as to why it isn't.
Seriously guys... how can you ever believe that "OUR SIDE GOT IT ALL RIGHT AND NEVER MADE A MISTAKE!!!"???
Remember that your party gets it right and your party also gets it wrong. You have to be fair about it or else the value of the words from your mouth are meaningless propaganda.
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