Last Stand! - Page 2

October 1st, 2008  
come to think of it, if there is a "last stand" situation, someone has ****ed up in the upper echlones
October 2nd, 2008  
Originally Posted by 03USMC
Nam Dong CIDG Camp 6 July, 1964.

At approx. 0226 6 July, 1964 the Nam Dong CIDG camp was attacked by a reinforced bn of Viet Cong. The attack started with a heavy mortar barrage followed by a ground assault. The defenders consisted of US Special Forces Advisors, Austrialian Army Advisors, South Vietnamese troops and Nung Mercenaries. For at a total of approx.370 defenders.

For five hours the defenders countered assault after assault with small arms, mortars, recoiless rifles and crew served weapons. Out numbered 3 to 1 the defenders held out. At 0945 the camp was evacuted by 6 USMC helo's.

The causalties were 55 South Vietnamese/Nungs KIA , 65 South Vietnamese/Nungs WIA. 2 SF men killed and 1 Austrialian KIA.

The Camp Commander Capt. Roger Donlon would the 1st Solider awarded the MOH in RVN.

Warrent Officer Kevin Conway Austrialian Army was the 1st Aussie to be KIA in RVN. He was recommended for the Victoria Cross for manning a mortar emplacement by himself until he was killed. The decoration was never awarded.

Good post 03USMC. There were cases of strange inconsistencies in the award of the VC in Vietnam. I am not expert enough to discuss this. Military people may like to look at this one.

Just a minor point, the proper spelling is "Australian".
October 2nd, 2008  
Originally Posted by errol
Just a minor point, the proper spelling is "Australian".

My bad. Fixed it

As far as Warrant Officer Conway's not being awarded the Victoria Cross, he was recommended by Colonel Francis P. (Ted) Serong then Commanding AATTV. Col. Serong has stated that it was U.S. Army Special Forces "Politics" that had the award squashed. I don't know maybe an Aussie can find some info on it. Whatever the Case the US Special Forces trooper MSGT G. Alamo who was in the mortar pit was awarded a posthumous Distinguished Service Cross, so could be.
October 12th, 2008  
Battle of Kapyong, Korean War, 1951.

Two Battalions, the Third Battalion of the Royal Australian Regiment, and the Second Battalion of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. A Chinese offensive had pushed the forward units into retreat, moving through the two battalions, who were formed into the 27th Commonwealth Brigade.

The Chinese attacked with over a division, outnumbering the defenders 5 to 1, fighting lasting for 4 days with both battalions being surrounded and fighting going hand-to-hand and bayonet charges.

After a night of fierce fighting Major Bernard O'Dowd, Officer Commanding, A Company, 3 RAR, managed to get through on a radio phone to a general of the 1st US Marine Division. The general was incredulous, thinking it was an enemy agent speaking. He told O'Dowd that the unit no longer existed, that it had been wiped out the night before.
Also, during the withdrawal of the Australians, 4 men from B Company, 3RAR, formed a rearguard to hold off any flanking attacks. The 4 Australians held off 3 waves of Chinese soldiers, consisting of roughly 200 men in each wave, killing at least 25 and wounding many more. For this, they were awarded American service medals.
Australian losses were 32 killed, 59 wounded and 3 captured; Canadian losses were 10 killed and 23 wounded; New Zealanders had 2 killed and 5 wounded. The Chinese losses are estimated at over 1,000 killed and an unknown number of wounded.
October 12th, 2008  
Who knows 03, probably ******** pollies and rank.

PTE Dick Norden received a Distinguished Conduct Medal in Vietnam for his actions in the Battle of Coral. The lead scout and section commander were shot 20 metres ahead, he rushed out, killed an enemy and dragged his section commander back. He then ran back out and killed the VC soldier who was using the scouts body as a shield, returning to his section he then went forward a third time throwing grenades clearing the area for the scouts body to be recovered. His section commander survived because of his actions.

Sir Roden Cutler VC, who received the Victoria Cross in WW2, decorated Dick and when doing so said to him "I do not know what one has to do these days to win a Victoria Cross".
October 12th, 2008  
I read a story in the book Infantry Aces about a German 88 gunner who was the only surviving member of his gun crew who single handily took out a dozen Soviet thanks. He was wounded but managed to load, aim, fire, of course the Soviets were shooting back.

This guy got the Iron Cross and then some.
November 25th, 2009  
The last stand of the 31st RCT East of Chosin in the Korean War may well have enabled the First Marine Division to attack in a different direction.

This was actually two battalions if the 31st Infantry, one battalion of the 32nd Infantry and supporting units, including anti aircraft artillery ubits capable of putting out a lot of firepower. When the Communist Chinese attacked First Marine Division, two Chinese Infantry Divisions, one reinforced by a regiment of a third Division, attacked the 31st RCT. Odds were 20,000 Chinese against 2,500 US Soldiers. 31st RCT was wiped out, fewer than 400 surviving. However, they did take out the Chinese divisions.

O.P. Smith, CG of the First Marine Division, made a desultory attempt to relive 31st RCT, then abandoned them. After the Chosin breakout, O. P. Smith accused the soldiers of the 31st RCT of wholesale cowardice. People, including a number of USMC officers, believed 31st RCT had been unfairly treated and worked to tell their story. Review of Chinese Military documents finally revealed what the 31st RCT had done, and the unit as awarded a Navy Presidential Citation, approximately 50 years after the event.

Some Marines have questioned the significance of 31st RCT's stand East of Chosin. Had 31st RCT not stood and fought, had the soldiers simply thrown away their arms and fled as O. P. Smith alleged, two, possibly three Chinese Infantry Divisions would have come down the East side of the Chosin Reservoir unfought and descended on Hagaru-Ri behind the First Marine Division before it could concentrate for their breakout. That would not have been good for First Marine Division.
December 13th, 2009  
Gary of CA
Dan Mills's book, Sniper One, doesn't have much on sniping but the contents has all the stuff of an epic movie on the scale of Blackhawk Down or Zulu!
December 22nd, 2009  
Team Infidel
only a few more to go.....
January 16th, 2010  
Korean Seaboy
Here's some amazing history (All South Korean)

Battle of Hwang-San-Bol
It was the last and desperate stand of a Korean nation-state named Baekjae which was one of the three nation-states during the Sam-Guk era. The Baekjae general was a hero named Gye-baek. He was heavily outmanned and outnumbered by the Silla (the second nation-state) army. Almost all of the soldiers were killed and general Gye-baek himself killed his own family before the battle so that they won't become slaves. The Baekjae army lost and this resulted in the annexation of Baekjae by Silla.

The Battle of Myeongyang
Admiral Yi-Sun-Sin was outnumbered by 13:333 ships. The enemy was the Japanese invasion fleet. Admiral Yi-Sun-Sin through superior ship design, superior maneuvering, and use of water currents, he won the battle although being heavily outnumbered.

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