Korean Soldiers




 
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March 7th, 2005  
Xion
 

Topic: Korean Soldiers


This is a ROK guard looking at the North Korean Army as they look back at them. They stand like in that martial arts stance for I don't know how long. If i'm not wrong its the 38 th parallel those shots were taken from..
Any one know why do they stand like that and for how long...I find it really amazing the looks on their faces are so grim and they look formidable...perfect warriors!!




^These are two North Korean Army Soldiers who stand watch at the Military Demarcation Line.


^ROK (S.Korea) soldier

March 7th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
I'm not sure how long their shifts are but they are picked with the following criteria:
1) Height. No short guys
2) No glasses.
3) Mean face. No nice looking boys here.
A few more I guess but those are the basics.
They're not MPs in the traditional sense.

In a lot of the more regular Army units you'll find your average soft as bunnies dudes.
March 7th, 2005  
Xion
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
3) Mean face. No nice looking boys here.
, i just love that kind of aggression on a soldiers face and I think there's one more thing to it...chinese and korean ppl faces look stern as it is..so it adds to the soldiers faces making them look more strict
Got any more pics from the 38th parallel ? ... i saw that border on the TV once and the mood in the air wasn't so good... it was like even if a bird flew by they would shoot it at once...that kind of aggression
Btw, do they keep staring at each other at all times and in the same pose ?...don't think a civilian would have the guts to go ahead and talk to one


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In a lot of the more regular Army units you'll find your average soft as bunnies dudes.
yep seen some pics from Iraq and they didn't look that tough as on the pics posted earlier from the 38th parallel
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March 7th, 2005  
k19
 
there was a news report showing on CNN about this like weeks ago, the S korean hide half of the body behind that wall, they say is for protection. i think for 3 to 4 hours. and always wear sun glasses. and sometimes americans also have personels stand there. when rainning, NK personels do put on raincoat, but the americans prefer not to, because it can show their "friend" the strengh, they say it has psychological effect. from the NK side, they say those were the best feed soliders in the NK army, but still, they look so weak and hungry. their were always two soilders standing at the same time, face to face, it's not for keeping the company, but, in case one decides to escape, the other one have the order to shoot him...... it's a really funny report.
March 7th, 2005  
Kilgore
 
It would be more intimidating to have a machine gun nest there. Well thats what i would place for a psychological effect. I hear they have bill boards up and propaganda towers to stir each other as well. Im not sure if that is true though.
March 7th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
DMZ = De-Militerized Zone.
Basically you're not allowed to have a machine gun nest there. The largest weapon allowed is a handgun.
Of course this isn't really enforced as there are such weapons but u cannot have it out in the open.
Plus there are plenty of places that have machine gun nests etc.

Yes, basically you must stare at the enemy and the first one to look away loses.

I don't know about the Americans on the border. There shouldn't be. The're all in the bases more to the rear. And they're going even further to the rear now. I know there USED to be Americans right up to the border in the past... after all, that's how the whole axe murder incident took place.
March 7th, 2005  
Xion
 

^ South Korean soldier to the right at the R.O.K. (Republic of Korea) ready
outside the conference building (Modified martial arts ready stance)



^ Korean Demilitarized Zone, December 12, 1975: South Korean soldiers from the 6011th Regiment inspect part of the fence at the DMZ between North and South Korea. More than a quarter-century after this photo was taken and 50 years after the signing of the Korean War armistice on July 27, 1953 the fence is still there, and tensions remain high in the region.



^ North Korean soldiers stand guard at the Panmunjom truce village in the demilitarized zone which seperates the North from South Korea May 20, 2003.




North Korean soldiers carry one of the five caskets that will be passed across the Military Demarcation Line to the United Nations Command Honor Guard soldiers during a repatriation ceremony at Panmunjom, Korea, on Oct. 9, 1998. The remains of what are believed to be five U.S. soldiers that served in the Korean war are being returned to South Korea. The remains were uncovered in Gaechon City, North Korea, about 50 miles north of Pyongyang. The U.S. Army's 2nd Infantry Division retreated through the area in late 1950 through a mountain pass called The Gauntlet which was occupied on both sides by Chinese soldiers. The division suffered nearly 5,000 casualties while making their way through. DoD photo by Senior Airman Jeffrey Allen, U.S. Air Force
March 7th, 2005  
Xion
 
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Yes, basically you must stare at the enemy and the first one to look away loses
i wanna see more of those Panmunjom truce village DMZ pictures with the soldiers staring at each other , an amazing border , you got any ?
March 7th, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
Daeseong-dong Village
South Korea's Daeseong-dong (Freedom Village) can be seen on the way to Panmunjeom. The 230 resident farmers who live here descend from families who lived in the area before the Korean War. Residents receive preferential treatment (including exemption from military service), but must also abide by strict rules (including a nightly curfew).

Gijeong-dong Village
Gijeong-dong propaganda village, situated 1.8 km from Daeseong-dong Village, was built in the northern area of the DMZ for the purpose of propaganda. The village has no residents except soldiers. The world's highest flag tower flying the North Korean flag stands at the entrance of the village.


this is my favourite though;

North Korea, desperate for cash, has turned the conflict zone into a tourist attraction without compare. Japanese visitors focus upon a desolate expanse of barbed wire, hungry for exotic snapshots of land mines, armed guards and bulletin boards bursting with hate literature. They peer into the distance, where two million Koreans died in the bloody civil war and millions more remain armed and ready for a repeat engagement.

Tourist brochures to the contrary; there is little tranquility left in the kingdom once called the Land of Morning Calm.

The truce village of Panmunjom, which was leveled in the Korean War, sits at the end of the Reunification Highway. The name is satire of the most tragic sort. The four paved lanes are wide and empty, the route short and sorrowful. A signpost notes that Seoul is only 70 kilometers further, however such sentiments are wishing-well dreams. The highway ends in bales of barbed wire and piles of paranoia at Panmunjom. Everyone is well aware that to even try to cross over means certain death.

The border tour involves a walk through the main gate to a complex of buildings where the reunification talks have been held to little purpose in the four decades since war split this once-serene land. Tourists can pose for pictures at the actual table where the negotiations take place, a huge line running through the building and the table itself.

Helmeted members of the multinational force watch the proceedings from the South Korean side with more than mere curiosity. They peer in the windows and shoot photos of visitors with telephoto lenses. Some visitors turn away, but the less timid tourists snap right back.

From a tall observation tower, visitors to the North Korean side of the DMZ watch guests on the other side of the line climb the steps of a similar tower. A slight wind brings the smell of pines from the green hills in the distance. A flock of white egrets settle in the nearby marshlands. Except for the chirping of birds, it's all quiet on the world's most perilous front.

After a military briefing filled with anti-American accusations, visitors are shuttled to a gift shop for the inevitable souvenirs. There are pins and posters, and books in six languages detailing the atrocities committed by "the American hooligans" and their "south Korean stooges." Most remarkable, though, payment must be made in US dollars.

On the walls hang old photographs detailing further alleged American and South Korean atrocities. The photographs are familiar to foreign visitors; they are displayed inside every train station, airport and most government buildings. A photo of an angry crowd is captioned, "South Korea Under the Occupation of the US Imperialists." Others mention "the south Korean puppet police" and praise "the patriotic students of south Korea."

And it gets more ridiculous. One little booklet reproduces numerous "secret US war plans." The only readable document is a letter from former American Secretary of State John Dulles thanking his Seoul hosts for dinner and the gift of a vase.

Not to be outdone, South Korea brings busloads of tourists to the border for a feast of propaganda that shows nothing so much as how close these kindred people remain, at least in terms of paranoid schizophrenia.

Beaches as distant as Cheju Island are surfaced to reveal footprints and patrolled nightly to prevent against a North Korean invasion. Students are drilled on subversion and sedition. Bus signs warn South Koreans to look out for spies.

Reminders are constant that, despite four decades of co-existence, nothing more than a temporary truce was declared between the Koreas. One of the more grisly episodes in the tenuous truce occurred in the summer of 1976 when an American work detail attempted to trim a tree. They encountered a sizable North Korean force. In the ensuing skirmish, two US army officers were hacked to death and at least nine soldiers wounded.

Such confrontations may explain the size of the UN forces at the DMZ. The soldiers are mountainous specimens. Americans must be at least six-feet tall and 200 pounds, according to our guide, Sgt. Gregory Hilton of Baltimore. Koreans must be above average height and weight and hold a black belt in at least one marshal art. Smiling, apparently, is not required.

All in all, it was like wrestling night at the forum. Only not nearly as much fun. For all the boasting about the superiority of the American Way, sad to say, the North Koreans throw a better border party.

We saw some silly film of goose-stepping North Korean guards. There was other finger pointing at alleged shortages of goods and brutality on the north side. Rather than take the high road, the UN forces mounted a parallel propaganda campaign.

The South Korean viewing platform is called Freedom House. It overlooks Freedom Bridge. Hilton described how each side has a small village within the border zone. On the North Korean side is Kijong-dong, which means Peace Village. "We call it Propaganda Village," says Hilton, insisting that the town is inhabited only by guards who blare North Korean propaganda from loudspeakers.

Across the line, less than two kilometers to the south is Daesong-dong, perhaps the most heavily-guarded settlement on Earth. Some 40 families farm the area under armed guard and strict regulations. They must be in by 10 p.m. Lights out is 11. Nonetheless, Hilton says without a touch of irony, the town is nicknamed "Freedom Village."

Both villages boast flagpoles that grew in scale over the years. In this instance, UN forces finally surrendered. The North Korean flag in Kijong-dong stands 160 meters high. The flag is 30 meters long and is estimated to weigh 600 pounds. Both flag and pole are the largest in the world, Hilton notes with disdain.

Such schoolyard antics spill into the peace hearings. Panmunjom, which was razed during the Korean War, was rebuilt largely to maintain contact between the Korean factions. From July 1951, until the armistice was signed two years later, over 1,000 meetings were held in the town --- the longest truce talks ever. The talks continue, but snag on nearly everything.

Take, for instance, the issue of the table flags. Each side tried to upstage the other by bringing to the talks larger and larger delegation flags, eventually dwarfing the delegations. A set of standards resolved this conflict. Or did it?

"Theirs is slightly taller," says Hilton, "but ours has a bigger width tip on top. The North Korean base is three tiers, but ours has two big ones, so it's the same size. Their flag is longer, but ours is wider."

So it goes at the Korean DMZ, where business in grim border tours remains brisk and the chill of the Cold War seems a long, long way from thawing.

http://www.gluckman.com/NKBorder.html
March 7th, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
The 2nd ID USA used to patrol along the Imjin River. The also had a course that qualified soliders to receive an Imjin Scout Patch. I used to work with a guy that had one he was there circa 86-87.